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Topic: ISS Expedition 13 and Soyuz TMA-8 insignia
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Voyager2012
Member Posts: 40
From: Stanhope, NJ 07874
Registered: Jun 2012
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posted 08-10-2012 06:53 PM
   
Is there any way we can get the Expedition 13 patch with the blue border and the one with the red border? Where they ever sold to the public? |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 55337
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 08-10-2012 06:55 PM
The red and blue bordered versions of the patch were produced by Alex Panchenko and offered to collectors (at a premium) through his website. |
Voyager2012
Member Posts: 40
From: Stanhope, NJ 07874
Registered: Jun 2012
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posted 08-19-2012 04:25 PM
Regarding the ISS Expedition 13 insignia, does anyone know if an official decal was ever made available for sale to the public of the three name, three flag variation? I do have the two name, two flag decal. That is all I have been able to find. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1051
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 08-20-2012 03:09 AM
With regard to the Expedition 13 patch, which was designed by Pavel Vinogradov and arranged by Alex Panchenko, it is of interest to note that six versions exist (not counting the three yellow bordered AB Emblem versions). First, there was the patch with only Vinogradov and Williams, with either a blue or a red border. Next, there was the patch including Reiter and the German flag, also with a red and a blue border. All four were manufactured by Dingsheng Fabric Co. in Taiwan. Some years ago, most of Panchenko's patches that had been produced by Dingsheng, appeared on eBay in larger quantities on eBay, sold by a Chinese seller named 'ueleven11'. At first, he did not have all versions of the Expedition 13 patch, but at one point, when more people had asked for the red and blue Reiter patches, he suddenly had them available. These were not embroidered onto a black background, however, (like the original) but on a dark blue twill (version 5 and 6). I believe these are modern reproductions using the original embroidery program, mistakenly embroidered onto a wrong background color. Maybe the accompanying Soyuz TMA-8 patches caused confusion: these do have a blue background. At one point in this discussion, Randy Hunt (Gator) chimed in and claimed that the Reiter patch seen in photography aboard ISS, was his product. I do not believe that. To me, it appears that this is the original Panchenko/Dingsheng patch (with the original black background). |
Voyager2012
Member Posts: 40
From: Stanhope, NJ 07874
Registered: Jun 2012
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posted 08-26-2012 02:18 PM
Custom ISS Expedition 13 patches were coordinated for sale by Tim Gagnon and Jacques van Oene in 2010 with the three flags/three crew names. Did this patch exist, meaning the one with the gold border, when Expedion 13 took place? I know the artwork for it did, as well as the decal that is on board the ISS. As well as the three flag/three name patch with the red border and the one with the blue border. Also the two names/two flag patches with the red border and also the blue border. And finally the gold border with the two names/two flags and three names/two flags. But what about three flags/three crew names with gold border? Thanks! |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1051
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 08-26-2012 03:34 PM
No, it did not. But in my opinion, it should have been. The official artwork NASA has of the revised patch with yellow border, does include the German flag. Still, for some reason, they instructed AB Emblem only to add the name of Reiter, not the flag. |
Voyager2012
Member Posts: 40
From: Stanhope, NJ 07874
Registered: Jun 2012
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posted 12-23-2012 10:13 AM
Does anyone know how many red and blue border versions exist of the Expedition 13 patch? I know there is a red border and a blue border variant with two names and two flags and the red and blue border variants with three flags and three names. Were there any red and blue bordered versions with two flags and three names like the official gold border variants? Thanks! |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1051
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 12-23-2012 10:54 AM
No. The red and blue variants were all produced without NASA involvement and without their 'logic' to include the name, but not the flag. |
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