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Author Topic:   Dragon Models 1:72 Saturn V rocket model
Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-11-2011 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon Models' first look at their new 1:72 Saturn V, as being announced at the All Japan Model & Hobby Show.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-11-2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have photos of the first test casting, which I'm using to recommend detail improvements. I unfortunately cannot share the photos but if you see anything wrong in the promo image above, please do share.

GACspaceguy
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posted 10-12-2011 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fins need to be silver with the letter for each fin. Also, the bottom of the engine fairings needs to be silver as well.

Ironman One
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posted 10-12-2011 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ironman One   Click Here to Email Ironman One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is all preliminary, however it looks like the "United States" on the second stage is misaligned with the roll pattern.

SpaceAholic
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posted 10-12-2011 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umbilical interfaces, vent and relief ports on each stage; antennas need to be added.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-12-2011 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ironman One:
..."United States" on the second stage is misaligned
The markings were digitally added to the first test casting for the purpose of creating the promo image.

press4meco
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posted 10-12-2011 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for press4meco   Click Here to Email press4meco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With this being a 1/72 scale model, the level of detail is only going to be that much more important. As was mentioned above, detailed umbilical plates, antennas and the like are what will make this model really worth it.

Kudos to Dragon for pursuing this scale of model. Just hope they can do it justice.

Jay Chladek
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posted 10-13-2011 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been advised by a contact in the know that eventually Dragon will offer a 1/72 unbuilt model kit of the Saturn V as well. They are pretty much going through the approach of using the same scaling data and CAD design to develop products for both the pre-built and model kit production lines to help spread the development costs around somewhat.

cspg
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posted 10-20-2011 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Dragon's website:

p51
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posted 10-23-2011 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a Saturn V model the same scale in a museum yesterday and realized it was around 5 feet tall. Of course, anyone can do the math and realize how big it'd be, but when you see one that size in person, it really makes you stop and say to yourself, "Really, would I ever have the room to display something that honking big?"

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 10-25-2011 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 1/72 scale Dragon Saturn V is expected to be available in Europe in December/January with an anticpated retail price of around 197 Euro plus P&P.

GoesTo11
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posted 10-25-2011 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already have more Saturn Vs in more scales than I know what to do with, but if Dragon can bring their finished 1:72 to market even close to that price in the US, it will be hard to pass up.

cspg
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posted 10-26-2011 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A poster on a French model kits building forum mentions the model at US$225 with a December release date.

Peter Kemp
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posted 10-26-2011 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter Kemp   Click Here to Email Peter Kemp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aviation Retail Direct here in the UK has now got this model listed on pre-order for £214.94 which includes 20% VAT (ouch!) but not shipping.

December 2011 expected delivery.

Can't resist - I'm just about to place my order!

cspg
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posted 10-26-2011 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon Models USA also announces a December release date.

Daugherty54
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posted 10-26-2011 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am surprised at the price considering the 4D 1/100 Saturn V went for more in most places.

I ordered one with reservations. Hopefully the detail will be good enough that it doesn't detract. As soon as anyone sees anything about the actual production quality please post this.

alexbaja
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posted 10-27-2011 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now seriously, I think it is a very good buy, I would like to see more detailed photos.

If they manage to get the details right, I will definitely consider buying one, so I will have to wait and see.

GoesTo11
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posted 12-19-2011 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Flying Mule website now lists this model as a January 2012 release.

DMScott
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posted 12-19-2011 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DMScott   Click Here to Email DMScott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I regret not buying one of the Bandai models and I don't want to pay up for a large vintage Saturn V, so this should do the trick. Just ordered mine. Hope the quality is good.

garyd2831
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posted 01-18-2012 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Flying Mule has it listed in stock now, so all of us who pre-ordered ours will hopefully be seeing it soon.

Even if its not perfect, its still a good price for such a large model. You would pay more for a wooden replica with even less detail. I know because I sold one a few months ago that was 1/96 scale and had all sorts of flaws.

I will probably touch up any areas that I feel are a little lacking. Again this will be on display in the vertical position 99% percent of the time.

jjknap
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posted 01-18-2012 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjknap   Click Here to Email jjknap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The pictures are updated now on the Flying Mule site. It looks pretty good.

garyd2831
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posted 01-18-2012 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably the first thing I noticed that is incorrect our the white colored fins. I believe they were actually silver in color?

dog320
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posted 01-19-2012 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dog320     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, should be an easy re-paint if you feel so inclined.

garyd2831
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posted 01-19-2012 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very true, it would be easy to repaint them silver in color. Anyone producing the decals (A,B,C & D) for the the fins?

dog320
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posted 01-20-2012 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dog320     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you look closely at the fin markings they are on a white background. So for a slightly harder re-paint you could just mask these off and paint silver around them.

apolloprojeckt
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posted 01-20-2012 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first two arrived this morning. The mailman (UPS) was struggling with the big box, sweat on his forehead.

The size of the top box is about the size of a refrigerator for two of these 1/72 rockets.

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posted 01-20-2012 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have looked at the model parts. The quality of the paint and details I give a seven. For the model builder this is a very good model to upgrade, because they could definitely use this model. It is a model for the exterior appearance, quality of workmanship and plastic is outstanding against.

I'm curious what other collectors will be saying in the coming week.

apolloprojeckt
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posted 01-20-2012 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have replaced the Command/Service Module and the LM Adapter with Dragon's Apollo 10 model on the Saturn V 1/72.

Not so difficult, 15 minutes and it was ready. The ring on the third stage you can easily get through to wobble.

The remaining small glue spots are pulled off by gently sanding, and then the job is ready. Very different appearance to the Revell 1/96 let's say.

garyd2831
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posted 01-20-2012 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You didn't waist any time... that looks great!

Kevmac
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posted 01-20-2012 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevmac   Click Here to Email Kevmac     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dang. I guess I gotta go buy Apollo 10 to mount on top of my Saturn V now. I hadn't planned to but the LM looks pretty cool thru the transparent panel. And even though mine won't be messed around with much, it would be nice to pull off the BPC and see the CM. Many thanks for posting pictures!

Ironman One
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posted 01-20-2012 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ironman One   Click Here to Email Ironman One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to do the same thing. I'll buy my Apollo 10 tomorrow. Thanks for the pictures.

dog320
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Thanks to those pictures I've jumped on the Apollo 10 bandwagon as well.

garyd2831
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posted 01-21-2012 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Apollo 10 refit looks and sounds great.

If you look closely at the original Dragon display that showed the proposed Saturn V several months back, you will see that they had a similar idea by using I believe the Apollo 10 portion.

dog320
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Whilst we're on the subject of improving this model, (I'm sure many of you have noticed, but just for the sake of completeness) - the APS modules on the SIVB need re-painting. These should be a steel/ chrome silver (whilst the fins are more a gunmetal silver shade).

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I just got my model today, and it's anything but disappointing. Yes, there are a few rough spots, and some niggling discrepancies (color of fins and F1 engines are most apparent), but overall it's a very nice model. I plan to make a wood base, a la MSFC, and do the Apollo 10 mod, but that's just me. This model is impressive right out of the box, and well worth its $200 price tag.

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Seconded. I'm more than happy with mine, especially for US$220 delivered.

I also plan to have the local award/trophy shop fashion a wood base for it, probably with a metal nameplate.

Oldbru
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I'm also thrilled with mine. I have it in an Ikea Detolf showcase. It wouldn't fit with the provided stand so I bought a wood one from Michael's art supply and painted it black. I repainted a few details on it.

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posted 01-25-2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevmac   Click Here to Email Kevmac     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike, that's a beautiful display case. You just gave many of us ideas on how to show off this beauty. Would you mind sharing some the details you repainted? I see the silver fins and S-IVB rockets. Anything else and any particular colors. Would appreciate hearing from any others that are also doing some modifications. Hope mine gets here soon. Thanks for sharing the picture!

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posted 01-25-2012 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oldbru     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the only two details painted as of yet. The case is a perfect fit for the Saturn V. It runs about $65 from Ikea. They have removable glass shelves in them. I plan on putting in an LED light strip in the top front to show off the model better.

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posted 01-25-2012 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a sweet looking display. I can't wait for mine to arrive.


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