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T O P I C R E V I E Wspacegrl13Just wondering if anyone knew if these crews are correct or if you know any other names for these future missions. Also, does NASA have a date when they are going to announce more future crew members. Thanks a lot.STS-116Mark PolanskyWilliam OefeleinRobert CurbeamJoan HigginbothamNicholas PatrickChrister FuglesangSTS-117Frederick SturckowLee ArchambaultJames ReillyRichard MastracchioSteven SwansonPatrick ForresterSTS-118Scott KellyCharles HobaughScott ParazynskiDafydd WilliamsBarbara MorganTracy Caldwell Clayton AndersonSTS-119Pamela MelroyMichael GernhardtCarlos NoriegaSTS-120James HalsellAlan PoindexterMichael Foremancheers,HelenDavidHI've not seen Melroy attached to 119. Do you have a source for that?Also, I would imagine the last two names on 118 would depend on when the mission flies.------------------ http://allthese worlds.net/space/ "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972BenYes, Melroy has been CDR for 119 for almost two years now.The list looks accurate as far as I can tell. I have slight differences for the up/down crews (such as Anderson) but I have not received an updated list in a few months.With every delay, the third ISS crewmember keeps switching; Caldwell has also been switched around a few times, as she hadbeen going up on 121 if Reiter couldn't (it was all dependent on the 'when' it launches factor).In addition, now that 119 has been delayed way down the line, we might see those crewmembers move up.PowerCatA good website that confirms these crew listings is: www.spacefacts.de Good for future ISS crews as well.spacegrl13Thanks for the info Ben and the website, it has a lot of great facts.cheers,HelenJohn K. RochesterWith permission from Dave Melroy here is his response when I asked him about future missions just 2 weeks ago.Pam has said they are working hard to do a May launch. Katrina did some damage to the plant where they build the liquid fuel tank, and they're scrambling to get it to the Cape in time to attach it to the shuttle. As soon as they have a clean mission, Pam said they'll start announcing future crews, and she expects to be named to one.Daveastro-nutI would like to give you some informatiion on the crew assignments. Prior to the STS-107 tragedy NASA released crew assignments for future flights. They were:STS-114Eileen Collins-CDRJim Kelly-PLTSteve Robinson-MSSoichi Noguchi-MSEd Lu-MS(up to ISS)Yuri Malenchenko-MS(up to ISS)Alexander Kaleri-MS(up to ISS)Expedition-6 crew to return on STS-114STS-115 crew is still the same.STS-116Terry Wilcutt-CDRBill Oefelien-PLTBob Curbeam-MSChrister Fugelsang-MSMike Foale-MS(up to ISS)Bill McArthur(up to ISS)Valery Tokarev(up to ISS)Expedition-7 crew return on STS-116STS-117Rick Sturckow-CDRMark Polansky-PLTJim Reilly-MSRick Mastracchio-MSPat Forrester-MSJoan Higgenbotham-MSSTS-118Scott Kelly-CDRCharles Hobaugh-PLTScott Parazynski-MSDave Williams-MSLisa Nowak-MSBarbara Morgan-MSSTS-119Steve Lindsey-CDRMark Kelly-PLTMike Gernhardt-MSCarlos Noriega-MSMike Finkce-MS(up to ISS)Gennadi Paldalka-MS(up to ISS)Oleg Kononenko-MS(up to ISS)Expedition-8 crew down on STS-119STS-120Jim Halsell-CDRAlan Poindexter-PLTWendy Lawrence-MSPiers Sellers-MSStephanie Wilson-MSMike Foreman-MSAlso the STS-121 was to launch the Expedition 10 crew to ISS and STS-122 was the be another Hubble service mission.Now of course some of the crews have been reassigned to different missions. Some may even fly again. This was the schedule just prior to STS-107. I hope this will be helpful for you. ASCAN1984Terry Wilcutt, I have just noticed, is now in management. He lost his STS-116 flight. That is terrible. Good news for Mark Polanksy though. I like him. I feel sorry for Yvonne Cagle. She is the only Sardine without a flight. I hope she gets one soon.Ben quote:Originally posted by ASCAN1984:She is the only Sardine without a flight. She's not the only of her class without a flight, Caldiero too.chappyIs this correct that NASA said that they will not let any astronauts fly into space five times? Is that why they dropped T. Wilcutt from STS-116? Also I've notice that J. Halsell had been selected for STS-120 mission, his 6th flight... why drop T. Wilcutt and name J. Halsell for the space missions? Will be very grateful for your reply to me and I'm new with this... Regards, ChappyBenA source confirms Halsell has also been removed from flight status. No word on a replacement on 120 yet.(I don't know why I made that comment on Wilcutt March 22, as I said previously in this same topic it was of course true he was off 116!).Tom quote:Originally posted by chappy:Is this correct that NASA said that they will not let any astronauts fly into space five times? Was the statement regarding astronauts banned from flying a fifth flight released by NASA?The reason I ask is because Scott Parazynski is scheduled to fly on STS-118... his 5th mission.BenI think that rumor probably comes from the whole 'Abbey not allowing more than six' politics of the past.Once he left, Chang-Diaz and Ross flew their seventh flights. Ross is theoretically still on flight status.There is no rule about five flights max, though. What there may be is a situation where they are going to limit assignments to those who haven't flown (the 98 and 00) class as much as they can rather than veterans, which I'm sure is why Halsell and Wilcutt got cut.issman1What's the situation with Anna Fisher then? Her only previous flight, STS-51A, was way back in 1984. She's listed as "active", so if anyone deserves a chance to fly it ought to be her.BenFisher stands almost no chance of ever flying again (and she's not, according to a source). Before the disaster [and before Abbey left], it may have been a possibility, but with the few flights remaining I would be very surprised if they gave her one.KSCartistBen-As far as I know she left flight status in 1986 to raise her daughter. Understandable when you consider that Challenger must have affected all of the corps deeply.Did she upset those in charge by returning or is it simply a numbers game? Just curious.TimBenI think it comes down to office politics. Mullane's book mentions her briefly as well but he doesn't touch on the details either.DwightMI'm not anywhere near in the know, but I've been a fan of spaceflight since before I can remember.As PowerCat said, www.spacefacts.de is a great source of information. I see they've recently listed some crew changes and additions. Scott Parazynski has moved from 118 to 120 with Richard Mastracchio taking his place from 117 and likewise, John Olivas filling in for Richard on 117.STS 120Pamela Melroy-CDRGeorge Zamka-PLTMichael Foreman-MS (previously assigned)Scott Parazynski-MSPaolo Nespoli-MSDouglas Wheelock-MSSTS 122Stephen Frick-CDRAlan Poindexter-PLT (was on 120)Hans Schlegel-MSStan Love-MSRex Walheim-MSDaniel Tani-Exp16/17 They also list Sergei Krikalyov as the Exp 17 backup CDR and 19 prime (very cool). Pretty soon we'll just be listing the time he's scheduled to be on Earth.I hear that there won't be any formal crew announcements until after a safe/clean 121 mission, so I don't think any of that is 'official', but it's cool to see.My take on the Wilcutt/Halsell/Parazynski thing (just my opinion) is that Scott's time spent in training (having been named to a crew much earlier as most MS's are) was taken into consideration. Not to say that Terry & James didn't put substatial time in, I'm sure they did, but that's just a thought on why Scott (and, so far, Michael Gernhardt on 119) remains assigned to a flight.There are several vets (that have fewer than 4 flights) that haven't flown in a while. Anna Fisher has been mentioned, but there's also Ellen Baker, Cady Coleman, Julie Payette, Janet Kavandi, Chris Hadfield, and probably a few more I've missed. I know some are in Management positions, but they're still on flight status. I dunno, I guess I just want to see everyone fly.P.S. What are the chances of John Grunsfeld getting assigned to 125 (HST SM-04)?Robert PearlmanPer NASA's (corrected) announcement today:STS-117 - Frederick SturckowLee ArchambaultJames ReillyPatrick ForresterSteven SwansonJohn OlivasSTS-118 - Scott KellyCharles HobaughDave WilliamsBarbara MorganRichard MastracchioTracy CaldwellRobert PearlmanRegarding Halsell and Wilcutt, today's Florida Today possibly offers some insight based on comments by chief astronaut Kent Rominger. quote:After Rominger and Ken Bowersox, director of flight crew operations, looked at how many flights were left, they bumped some veterans with four or more flights to give others more experience."Being assigned to space flight is a really big deal, and being unassigned from a space flight is even a bigger deal," Rominger said. "In two cases I've taken two extremely talented, gifted, experienced shuttle commanders and pulled them off a flight, the logic being, when they were assigned to the mission, it was before Columbia happened, and there was kind of no end in sight of shuttle missions." Read the full article here.Fra MauroSo Bowersox determines the flight crews? NASA should stop hiring new astronauts then, if they already have too many. Is there a standby crew for potential rescue mission?Robert PearlmanNASA hasn't hired a new class of astronauts since 2004 and they won't do so again until at least 2008.As for a rescue mission, STS-300 (the designation given by NASA) would see Atlantis launch with STS-115's core crew of Jett, Ferguson, Tanner and Burbank.
STS-116Mark PolanskyWilliam OefeleinRobert CurbeamJoan HigginbothamNicholas PatrickChrister Fuglesang
STS-117Frederick SturckowLee ArchambaultJames ReillyRichard MastracchioSteven SwansonPatrick Forrester
STS-118Scott KellyCharles HobaughScott ParazynskiDafydd WilliamsBarbara MorganTracy Caldwell Clayton Anderson
STS-119Pamela MelroyMichael GernhardtCarlos Noriega
STS-120James HalsellAlan PoindexterMichael Foreman
cheers,Helen
Also, I would imagine the last two names on 118 would depend on when the mission flies.
------------------ http://allthese worlds.net/space/ "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972
The list looks accurate as far as I can tell. I have slight differences for the up/down crews (such as Anderson) but I have not received an updated list in a few months.
With every delay, the third ISS crewmember keeps switching; Caldwell has also been switched around a few times, as she hadbeen going up on 121 if Reiter couldn't (it was all dependent on the 'when' it launches factor).
In addition, now that 119 has been delayed way down the line, we might see those crewmembers move up.
Good for future ISS crews as well.
Pam has said they are working hard to do a May launch. Katrina did some damage to the plant where they build the liquid fuel tank, and they're scrambling to get it to the Cape in time to attach it to the shuttle. As soon as they have a clean mission, Pam said they'll start announcing future crews, and she expects to be named to one.
Dave
STS-114Eileen Collins-CDRJim Kelly-PLTSteve Robinson-MSSoichi Noguchi-MSEd Lu-MS(up to ISS)Yuri Malenchenko-MS(up to ISS)Alexander Kaleri-MS(up to ISS)
Expedition-6 crew to return on STS-114
STS-115 crew is still the same.
STS-116Terry Wilcutt-CDRBill Oefelien-PLTBob Curbeam-MSChrister Fugelsang-MSMike Foale-MS(up to ISS)Bill McArthur(up to ISS)Valery Tokarev(up to ISS)
Expedition-7 crew return on STS-116
STS-117Rick Sturckow-CDRMark Polansky-PLTJim Reilly-MSRick Mastracchio-MSPat Forrester-MSJoan Higgenbotham-MS
STS-118Scott Kelly-CDRCharles Hobaugh-PLTScott Parazynski-MSDave Williams-MSLisa Nowak-MSBarbara Morgan-MS
STS-119Steve Lindsey-CDRMark Kelly-PLTMike Gernhardt-MSCarlos Noriega-MSMike Finkce-MS(up to ISS)Gennadi Paldalka-MS(up to ISS)Oleg Kononenko-MS(up to ISS)
Expedition-8 crew down on STS-119
STS-120Jim Halsell-CDRAlan Poindexter-PLTWendy Lawrence-MSPiers Sellers-MSStephanie Wilson-MSMike Foreman-MS
Also the STS-121 was to launch the Expedition 10 crew to ISS and STS-122 was the be another Hubble service mission.
Now of course some of the crews have been reassigned to different missions. Some may even fly again. This was the schedule just prior to STS-107. I hope this will be helpful for you.
quote:Originally posted by ASCAN1984:She is the only Sardine without a flight.
Also I've notice that J. Halsell had been selected for STS-120 mission, his 6th flight... why drop T. Wilcutt and name J. Halsell for the space missions?
Will be very grateful for your reply to me and I'm new with this... Regards, Chappy
(I don't know why I made that comment on Wilcutt March 22, as I said previously in this same topic it was of course true he was off 116!).
quote:Originally posted by chappy:Is this correct that NASA said that they will not let any astronauts fly into space five times?
The reason I ask is because Scott Parazynski is scheduled to fly on STS-118... his 5th mission.
Once he left, Chang-Diaz and Ross flew their seventh flights. Ross is theoretically still on flight status.
There is no rule about five flights max, though. What there may be is a situation where they are going to limit assignments to those who haven't flown (the 98 and 00) class as much as they can rather than veterans, which I'm sure is why Halsell and Wilcutt got cut.
Her only previous flight, STS-51A, was way back in 1984. She's listed as "active", so if anyone deserves a chance to fly it ought to be her.
As far as I know she left flight status in 1986 to raise her daughter. Understandable when you consider that Challenger must have affected all of the corps deeply.
Did she upset those in charge by returning or is it simply a numbers game? Just curious.
Tim
As PowerCat said, www.spacefacts.de is a great source of information. I see they've recently listed some crew changes and additions. Scott Parazynski has moved from 118 to 120 with Richard Mastracchio taking his place from 117 and likewise, John Olivas filling in for Richard on 117.
STS 120Pamela Melroy-CDRGeorge Zamka-PLTMichael Foreman-MS (previously assigned)Scott Parazynski-MSPaolo Nespoli-MSDouglas Wheelock-MS
STS 122Stephen Frick-CDRAlan Poindexter-PLT (was on 120)Hans Schlegel-MSStan Love-MSRex Walheim-MSDaniel Tani-Exp16/17
They also list Sergei Krikalyov as the Exp 17 backup CDR and 19 prime (very cool). Pretty soon we'll just be listing the time he's scheduled to be on Earth.
I hear that there won't be any formal crew announcements until after a safe/clean 121 mission, so I don't think any of that is 'official', but it's cool to see.My take on the Wilcutt/Halsell/Parazynski thing (just my opinion) is that Scott's time spent in training (having been named to a crew much earlier as most MS's are) was taken into consideration. Not to say that Terry & James didn't put substatial time in, I'm sure they did, but that's just a thought on why Scott (and, so far, Michael Gernhardt on 119) remains assigned to a flight.
There are several vets (that have fewer than 4 flights) that haven't flown in a while. Anna Fisher has been mentioned, but there's also Ellen Baker, Cady Coleman, Julie Payette, Janet Kavandi, Chris Hadfield, and probably a few more I've missed. I know some are in Management positions, but they're still on flight status. I dunno, I guess I just want to see everyone fly.
P.S. What are the chances of John Grunsfeld getting assigned to 125 (HST SM-04)?
STS-117 - Frederick SturckowLee ArchambaultJames ReillyPatrick ForresterSteven SwansonJohn Olivas
STS-118 - Scott KellyCharles HobaughDave WilliamsBarbara MorganRichard MastracchioTracy Caldwell
quote:After Rominger and Ken Bowersox, director of flight crew operations, looked at how many flights were left, they bumped some veterans with four or more flights to give others more experience."Being assigned to space flight is a really big deal, and being unassigned from a space flight is even a bigger deal," Rominger said. "In two cases I've taken two extremely talented, gifted, experienced shuttle commanders and pulled them off a flight, the logic being, when they were assigned to the mission, it was before Columbia happened, and there was kind of no end in sight of shuttle missions."
"Being assigned to space flight is a really big deal, and being unassigned from a space flight is even a bigger deal," Rominger said. "In two cases I've taken two extremely talented, gifted, experienced shuttle commanders and pulled them off a flight, the logic being, when they were assigned to the mission, it was before Columbia happened, and there was kind of no end in sight of shuttle missions."
As for a rescue mission, STS-300 (the designation given by NASA) would see Atlantis launch with STS-115's core crew of Jett, Ferguson, Tanner and Burbank.
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