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T O P I C R E V I E WRobert PearlmanBlue Origin is now selling a model of its New Glenn orbital rocket for $445. This New Glenn model is a high-detail model measuring over 3 feet tall. 1/108th scale (34+ inches tall)Landing legs in the deployed positionStages separate – Fairing lifts from GS2, GS2 lifts from GS1Engines and payload adaptor featured on GS2 GS2 also features a magnet that can host any 3D printed payload that fits in the fairing cspg$445, really?Robert PearlmanWhile on the higher end, given that the model is more than 3 feet tall and separates into its stages, as well as includes a magnet mount for payloads, it is not an outlandish asking price. Models with less features and of smaller size have sold for more.GACspaceguyI really do not think the price is out of line. Wait until they are all gone then try and buy one for that price. The 1/108 scale is somewhat strange but very close to the Revell 1/110 scale Mercury Atlas and Redstone model kit it will do just fine. SkyMan1958A model... how quaint, just like their actual rocket. While I expect rockets to take longer to be developed than the manufacturing company states at the beginning of the process, at this point it is taking wayyy longer. I hope the BE-4's are actually in good enough shape to allow Vulcan to fly this year. Robert Pearlman quote:Originally posted by SkyMan1958:A model... how quaint, just like their actual rocket. I can imagine people saying the same thing of Grumman's lunar module models, which were in production and being distributed while the lunar module hit a series of significant delays.Of course, now those models are highly prized and almost no one remembers (or at least makes much ado about) the setbacks.SkyMan1958To your point as to value of these models, assuming they are a limited supply, I agree with you that they will have potentially significant resale value X years hence. With regards to the LM versus New Glenn, the LM was a truly revolutionary rocket design. Not only did it have to function as a rocket, it had to function as a launch pad too. Also, of course, it was constantly being jerked around by its sole customer NASA as to what it could weigh, not to mention what it had to do. Even with these constraints, from submittal of proposal in September 1962, it had a crewed flight in March 1969 e.g. 6 years and 6 months.New Glenn is a "green field" design. All of the design specifications for New Glenn were in house. No one else was telling them what to do. Design work began in 2012. New Glenn was publicly revealed in September 2016. So, even if you take the midway point of 2014 between these, not the starting point of 2012, it has already taken longer for New Glenn at this point with no flown articles, then it took for the LM to do a crewed flight. While New Glenn did not have the US Government paying for it like the LM, it did have the richest man in the world footing the bill. The primary rocket engine for New Glenn was being semi-subsidized by ULA. Also, while the reusable aspect of the rocket is cutting edge, the rest of basic rocket knowledge is now in the public domain, so Blue Origin doesn't have to research and test that. Don't get me wrong, I hope that Blue Origin is successful. It's just I personally find it amusing, in a black humor sort of a way, that Blue Origin has this model out there, but no rocket, not only that, but, as far as I can see, there are no engines on the first stage of the model. C'est la vie. Robert PearlmanIf New Glenn is an in-house project, then the only schedule that really matters is the one that Blue Origin sets for itself. (Yes, Blue Origin has commitments to ULA, but that's a concern between ULA and Blue Origin.)apolloprojecktHmm I just printing this version. Lunokhod 2I don't think the term "highly detail" is really appropriate with this model.cspgAnd it does not say what it's made of. And for a rocket that has yet to fly.But fair enough, Robert, the Dragon Models Saturn V 1:72 scale is close in terms of price range.
This New Glenn model is a high-detail model measuring over 3 feet tall. 1/108th scale (34+ inches tall)Landing legs in the deployed positionStages separate – Fairing lifts from GS2, GS2 lifts from GS1Engines and payload adaptor featured on GS2 GS2 also features a magnet that can host any 3D printed payload that fits in the fairing
The 1/108 scale is somewhat strange but very close to the Revell 1/110 scale Mercury Atlas and Redstone model kit it will do just fine.
While I expect rockets to take longer to be developed than the manufacturing company states at the beginning of the process, at this point it is taking wayyy longer. I hope the BE-4's are actually in good enough shape to allow Vulcan to fly this year.
quote:Originally posted by SkyMan1958:A model... how quaint, just like their actual rocket.
Of course, now those models are highly prized and almost no one remembers (or at least makes much ado about) the setbacks.
With regards to the LM versus New Glenn, the LM was a truly revolutionary rocket design. Not only did it have to function as a rocket, it had to function as a launch pad too. Also, of course, it was constantly being jerked around by its sole customer NASA as to what it could weigh, not to mention what it had to do. Even with these constraints, from submittal of proposal in September 1962, it had a crewed flight in March 1969 e.g. 6 years and 6 months.
New Glenn is a "green field" design. All of the design specifications for New Glenn were in house. No one else was telling them what to do. Design work began in 2012. New Glenn was publicly revealed in September 2016. So, even if you take the midway point of 2014 between these, not the starting point of 2012, it has already taken longer for New Glenn at this point with no flown articles, then it took for the LM to do a crewed flight.
While New Glenn did not have the US Government paying for it like the LM, it did have the richest man in the world footing the bill. The primary rocket engine for New Glenn was being semi-subsidized by ULA. Also, while the reusable aspect of the rocket is cutting edge, the rest of basic rocket knowledge is now in the public domain, so Blue Origin doesn't have to research and test that.
Don't get me wrong, I hope that Blue Origin is successful. It's just I personally find it amusing, in a black humor sort of a way, that Blue Origin has this model out there, but no rocket, not only that, but, as far as I can see, there are no engines on the first stage of the model. C'est la vie.
(Yes, Blue Origin has commitments to ULA, but that's a concern between ULA and Blue Origin.)
But fair enough, Robert, the Dragon Models Saturn V 1:72 scale is close in terms of price range.
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