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T O P I C R E V I E WRobert PearlmanAs of today, NASA's Lunar Surface Access Module (LSAM, the new lunar lander) is to be referred to as Altair. The new name and logo were revealed to members of the aerospace industry during a briefing still underway at Johnson Space Center.According to Lauri Hansen, NASA's lunar lander project manager, "Altair is the brightest star in the constellation Aquila and is the twelfth brightest star in the night sky. The word "Altair" finds its origins in Arabic and is derived from a phrase that means 'the flying one'. "In Latin, "Aquila" means Eagle, tying our new lander to the historic Apollo 11 Eagle," Hansen wrote in an email obtained by collectSPACE.com.kimmern123What a great name! Tying it to Eagle as well I think is a wonderful thing to do. The meaning of the name also fits very well with Altair's purpose. Now all we have to wait for is for the actual hardware to be made. I guess that's still several years away though...KSCartistWhile I think the name is very appropriate and I can surely understand why they would want to tie it to the LM on Apollo 11, I wish they had done a better job of illustrating the Eagle on the logo.It's simply an Apollo 11 patch in reverse and the illustration is almost "child-like." But maybe that's what they intended since today's kids are tomorrows explorers.TimShuttleDiscoveryThe patch maches the Constellation, Orion and Ares ones (triangles). I hope an embroidered version comes out soon!Is there a hi-res version of the patch?onesmallstep Very nice and elegant design, with both the eagle and the letter script echoing Apollo. I guess with both the CEV (Orion) and LSAM (Altair) both having names now, they will dispense with crew-given names for each, as was done in Apollo. -AlNavySpaceFan quote:Originally posted by onesmallstep:I guess with both the CEV (Orion) and LSAM (Altair) both having names now, they will dispense with crew-given names for each, as was done in Apollo. I think that the crews will still have individual call signs for their spacecraft, makes the mission more personal.Robert PearlmanMore details and quotes from today: NASA names next-gen lunar lander Altair quote:Move over Eagle, the Altair has landed.cspgHow do you pronounce it? In French, it would "alta-eer" but in English?Chris.Robert Pearlman quote:Originally posted by cspg:How do you pronounce it? When Jeff Hanley said the name at yesterday's industry meeting, it was pronounced, 'al-tare'.Mr Meek quote:All four insignias, including the Constellation and Altair logos, were designed for NASA by Michael Okuda, who may be best known for his work on the Star Trek series.Surely I'm not alone in thinking that's yet another cool link between NASA and everyone's favorite pseudoscience fiction franchise....Just as long as the ships don't have any inscrutable LCARS displays with the magical X/Y pad that does EVERYTHING! jimszI like the concept but the image is really done poorly.They certainly could have created a more professional looking presentation design that what they have.Choose2Go quote:All four insignias, including the Constellation and Altair logos, were designed for NASA by Michael Okuda, who may be best known for his work on the Star Trek series.Mike credits his interest in space art and design to a NASA Spacemobile education program he attended while in grade school. This shows the benefit of investing in education. You never know how you may effect a child or influence their future. Good job, Mike!cspgThe name Altair is also referenced in the movie Forbidden Planet, which I like very much.Anybody has come up with (silly) acronym(s) for ALTAIR?Chris.tegwilym quote:Originally posted by ShuttleDiscovery:The patch maches the Constellation, Orion and Ares ones All the patches have 10 stars. What do those refer to? Robert Pearlman quote:Originally posted by tegwilym:All the patches have 10 stars. What do those refer to? As mentioned in our above linked article: quote:Like the patches for the other initiatives, the Altair insignia includes 10 stars in its background, a symbol previously attributed to each of the 10 NASA nationwide centers working to return astronauts to the Moon. The pattern of the stars in the Altair logo form the constellation Aquila, with the bright (larger) star referencing the location of Atlair.onesmallstep quote:Originally posted by cspg:Anybody has come up with (silly) acronym(s) for ALTAIR? How about: Advanced Lunar Transport and Astronaut Intravehicular Restroom?-AlHart SastrowardoyoALTAIR: American Lunar Thingee Aimed (at) Impact, Return.eurospaceJust as NASA needed the Germans to take their rockets to go to the Moon, they now need the French to invent names: Altair was the designation of Jean-Pierre Haigneré's first mission to space station MIR in 1993. ------------------Jürgen P EsdersBerlin, GermanyInternational Director (Europe), Space UnitVice President, Weltraum Philatelie e. V.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Astroaddiesart540Altair is a very prominent star in the summer skies and much better known than any aerospace mission or vehicle...tegwilym quote:Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:Like the patches for the other initiatives, the Altair insignia includes 10 stars in its background, a symbol previously attributed to each of the 10 NASA nationwide centers working to return astronauts to the Moon. Ah! Thanks Robert. I guess I read that article too fast and went right past that. Oops.TomJohn YouskauskasI was trying to figure this out when I first looked at the patch, and actually counted 11 stars, including the one in the "A". I assumed this was a reference to Apollo 11 as well as the eagle.Robert PearlmanNASA added the Altair announcement to its website on Dec. 18: NASA Chooses "Altair" as Name for Astronauts' Lunar LanderNot many (if any) new details (and the logo is still absent from their site) but there are a few new hi-res images of Altair docked with Orion and on the Moon.
The new name and logo were revealed to members of the aerospace industry during a briefing still underway at Johnson Space Center.
According to Lauri Hansen, NASA's lunar lander project manager, "Altair is the brightest star in the constellation Aquila and is the twelfth brightest star in the night sky. The word "Altair" finds its origins in Arabic and is derived from a phrase that means 'the flying one'.
"In Latin, "Aquila" means Eagle, tying our new lander to the historic Apollo 11 Eagle," Hansen wrote in an email obtained by collectSPACE.com.
It's simply an Apollo 11 patch in reverse and the illustration is almost "child-like." But maybe that's what they intended since today's kids are tomorrows explorers.
Tim
Is there a hi-res version of the patch?
-Al
quote:Originally posted by onesmallstep:I guess with both the CEV (Orion) and LSAM (Altair) both having names now, they will dispense with crew-given names for each, as was done in Apollo.
quote:Move over Eagle, the Altair has landed.
Chris.
quote:Originally posted by cspg:How do you pronounce it?
quote:All four insignias, including the Constellation and Altair logos, were designed for NASA by Michael Okuda, who may be best known for his work on the Star Trek series.
Surely I'm not alone in thinking that's yet another cool link between NASA and everyone's favorite pseudoscience fiction franchise.
...Just as long as the ships don't have any inscrutable LCARS displays with the magical X/Y pad that does EVERYTHING!
They certainly could have created a more professional looking presentation design that what they have.
Mike credits his interest in space art and design to a NASA Spacemobile education program he attended while in grade school. This shows the benefit of investing in education. You never know how you may effect a child or influence their future. Good job, Mike!
Anybody has come up with (silly) acronym(s) for ALTAIR?
quote:Originally posted by ShuttleDiscovery:The patch maches the Constellation, Orion and Ares ones
quote:Originally posted by tegwilym:All the patches have 10 stars. What do those refer to?
quote:Like the patches for the other initiatives, the Altair insignia includes 10 stars in its background, a symbol previously attributed to each of the 10 NASA nationwide centers working to return astronauts to the Moon.
quote:Originally posted by cspg:Anybody has come up with (silly) acronym(s) for ALTAIR?
------------------Jürgen P EsdersBerlin, Germany
International Director (Europe), Space UnitVice President, Weltraum Philatelie e. V.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Astroaddies
quote:Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:Like the patches for the other initiatives, the Altair insignia includes 10 stars in its background, a symbol previously attributed to each of the 10 NASA nationwide centers working to return astronauts to the Moon.
Tom
Not many (if any) new details (and the logo is still absent from their site) but there are a few new hi-res images of Altair docked with Orion and on the Moon.
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