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T O P I C R E V I E WmensaxWhew! That "other" post sure has gotten long... and a bit old...I was thinking that if I had the option today of going up into space in either the Mercury capsule, the Gemini spacecraft, the Apollo CM, or the Shuttle. Which would I climb aboard? Well, for me there wasn't really anything to think about... I'd take the Apollo CM. Would anybody out there do anything different?Noahjohn ffoulkesNo doubt about it, Apollo for me everytime.Hawkman quote:Originally posted by mensax:I was thinking that if I had the option today of going up into space in either the Mercury capsule, the Gemini spacecraft, the Apollo CM, or the Shuttle. Which would I climb aboard? Well, for me there wasn't really anything to think about... I'd take the Apollo CM. Would anybody out there do anything different?NoahWow! I was just thinking about this! I picked up the Spacecraft Films three DVD set of "Gemini". I was watching the onboard films and thought how I would love to fly a Gemini spacecraft. I think a few of the 'old school' astros liked it because the cockpit layout reminded them of a fighter aircraft.Actually, I wouldn't mind taking a ride in either Mercury, Gemini or Apollo. If we are talking shuttles, then we are talking the shuttle Orion from '2001'. :-)Gene[This message has been edited by Hawkman (edited September 14, 2003).]Robert PearlmanThis might sound odd, but I think I would prefer the Shuttle. Assuming we are only talking about the spacecraft itself and not any particular mission, than the Space Shuttle offers the most room to experience zero gravity, the best windows to watch Earth passing below, and the easiest access to climb outside for an EVA. It also offers the smoothest ride up (pogo does not sound like its any fun) and the easiest return (no waiting for a Navy fleet to find you). Not to mention that the Shuttle offers the most convenient bathroom, because when you have to go, you have to go... Plus with all the souvenirs I would want to bring, that Payload Bay would be very useful. Now, if we are talking about specific missions over spacecraft design, than sign me up for Apollo 17.[This message has been edited by Robert Pearlman (edited September 14, 2003).]cklofasEverything else being equal, I would prefer the Shuttle. The capsules, while great, are just too small for someone my size. That being said , if someone offered me a flight, the condition being I'd have to shoehorn into a Mercury, I'd certainly try BLACKARROWBut only Apollo gave you the chance to get out, stretch your legs, and have a proper walk...Robert PearlmanYes, but if I understand the original question -- we are only talking about the CM...BenI would take the shuttle. I grew up with it and know it best. In fact if I ever became an astronaut, and was too late for the shuttle, I would always be sorry I didn't get to fly on it.Matt TApollo CM, has to be!If only to step out of the transfer van, look up at the Saturn V and know you'll be riding it in to space.Cheers,MattFra MauroApollo hands down! I hope NASA goes back to using ballistic capsules again. See the article on time.com under the science sectionDavidHCount me in for the Shuttle. I've had the opportunity to sit in an Apollo replica, and if I'm going to be in microgravity, I want to enjoy it a little more than that affords you.Cliff LentzAlthough I would really like to ride on the Shuttle, the orbiter has a big problem as we already know. The problem as I see it, is that the shuttle and the Mercury spacecraft is that the heat shield is exposed to the space environment the whole time it is in space. Anything can damage it as we have seen. There is also something to be said for the ejection seats in the Gemini spacecraft. If I had to pick I'd probably go Gemini.Robert PearlmanI believe it was Stafford who said that the ejection seats on Gemini could kill the occupant.Hawkman quote:Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:I believe it was Stafford who said that the ejection seats on Gemini could kill the occupant.The ejection seat question was mentioned in the fine Gemini documentary that Andrew Chaikin wrote for the Spacecraft Films Gemini DVDs. I think all concerned knew it would destroy the capsule at the very least, most likely doing the same to the occupant. That's why Wally Schirra gets my vote for Big Brass Ones award for his actions during the Gemini VI shutdown. Everything around him told him that he was moving and to get out but he stayed put because he didn't FEEL it in the seat of his pants. As I watched films of the various launches, I thought about the lack of an escape tower on Gemini and thought about the possibilty of punching out at speeds faster than Mach 1. I'll take the tower. It seems NASA wised up (my opinion) and put a tower back on Apollo.I would STILL love to fly in a Gemini spacecraft though. :-)Gene[This message has been edited by Hawkman (edited September 15, 2003).]DavidH quote:Although I would really like to ride on the Shuttle, the orbiter has a big problem as we already know.As much talk as there is about the Shuttle being more dangerous, what sort of odds would anyone lay on either Mercury-Atlas, Gemini-Titan or Apollo-Saturn making 113 flights without loss of vehicle and crew?Bob MGOOD point, David. A friend & I have talked about exactly the same thing. The fantastic Saturn V flew only 13 times; the Atlas only 4 times manned; and the Titan II ten times manned. There were 31 Mercury/Gemini/Apollo flights using five different man-rated launch vehicles with no serious problems. But the engine shutdown at ignition on GT-6 and the loss of one engine in the 1st stage on Apollo 13 were scary moments. But had the reliable Saturn 1B flown 113 times rather than the 5 times it did manned, who could say how many failures it may have had? Would the complex Saturn V have not failed at least once like the Shuttle did in 113 launches if it had been launched a like number of times? Maybe we're being a little too critical of the Space Shuttle; only one launch failure in 113, although a failure at launch later doomed STS-107. Bob McLeodRick MulheirnCount me in for the Apollo CM too. Matt, I'll ride with you if you like; it will give us a chance to catch up.Regards,Rick.Matt TAbsolutely Rick but bagsy I get the spacewalk Cheers,MattandrewcarsonMatt & Rick...Count me in...there`s room for three.Apollo CSM anytime.....AndrewMatt TAt last a serious commitment to space exploration from the UK, the first all British Apollo crew!Cheers,MattRick MulheirnWecome aboard Andrew. I'd like a seat by the window please and autographs are $40 a shot. Autographica here I come.....Regards,Rick.JakeCount me in on the Gemini any time. The sports car of space vehicles - although I'd like to take the Gemini for a spin around the moon. The physics might not be there, but that would be what I'd like to do!------------------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)dss65I can't imagine passing up a ride on the Saturn V. Give me Apollo.------------------DonAztecdougI'm with the Gemini guys. Not only was the Gemini a sports car but it only took the Titan 5 minutes to get into orbit. That is fast, real fast!------------------Warm RegardsDouglas HenryEnjoy yourself and have fun.... it is only a hobby!
I was thinking that if I had the option today of going up into space in either the Mercury capsule, the Gemini spacecraft, the Apollo CM, or the Shuttle. Which would I climb aboard? Well, for me there wasn't really anything to think about... I'd take the Apollo CM.
Would anybody out there do anything different?
Noah
quote:Originally posted by mensax:I was thinking that if I had the option today of going up into space in either the Mercury capsule, the Gemini spacecraft, the Apollo CM, or the Shuttle. Which would I climb aboard? Well, for me there wasn't really anything to think about... I'd take the Apollo CM. Would anybody out there do anything different?Noah
Wow! I was just thinking about this! I picked up the Spacecraft Films three DVD set of "Gemini". I was watching the onboard films and thought how I would love to fly a Gemini spacecraft. I think a few of the 'old school' astros liked it because the cockpit layout reminded them of a fighter aircraft.
Actually, I wouldn't mind taking a ride in either Mercury, Gemini or Apollo. If we are talking shuttles, then we are talking the shuttle Orion from '2001'. :-)
Gene
[This message has been edited by Hawkman (edited September 14, 2003).]
Plus with all the souvenirs I would want to bring, that Payload Bay would be very useful.
Now, if we are talking about specific missions over spacecraft design, than sign me up for Apollo 17.
[This message has been edited by Robert Pearlman (edited September 14, 2003).]
If only to step out of the transfer van, look up at the Saturn V and know you'll be riding it in to space.
Cheers,Matt
quote:Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:I believe it was Stafford who said that the ejection seats on Gemini could kill the occupant.
The ejection seat question was mentioned in the fine Gemini documentary that Andrew Chaikin wrote for the Spacecraft Films Gemini DVDs. I think all concerned knew it would destroy the capsule at the very least, most likely doing the same to the occupant. That's why Wally Schirra gets my vote for Big Brass Ones award for his actions during the Gemini VI shutdown. Everything around him told him that he was moving and to get out but he stayed put because he didn't FEEL it in the seat of his pants. As I watched films of the various launches, I thought about the lack of an escape tower on Gemini and thought about the possibilty of punching out at speeds faster than Mach 1. I'll take the tower. It seems NASA wised up (my opinion) and put a tower back on Apollo.
I would STILL love to fly in a Gemini spacecraft though. :-)
[This message has been edited by Hawkman (edited September 15, 2003).]
quote:Although I would really like to ride on the Shuttle, the orbiter has a big problem as we already know.
Bob McLeod
Regards,
Rick.
Count me in...there`s room for three.
Apollo CSM anytime.....
Andrew
------------------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
------------------Don
------------------Warm Regards
Douglas Henry
Enjoy yourself and have fun.... it is only a hobby!
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