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Topic: Artemis missions and Roman numerals
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Blackarrow Member Posts: 3971 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-28-2026 04:23 PM
Does NASA have an official, consistent position on Orion mission numbering? I see that collectSPACE always uses Roman numerals. It was clear that there was no hard and fast rule for Gemini or Apollo: some missions used Roman, others Arabic. Significantly, Apollo 8 and Apollo 11 used Arabic. I don't know if it's apocryphal but I have read that Neil Armstrong insisted on "Apollo 11" because many people around the world would not have understood "XI." As far as I can see, all NASA Apollo reports (press kits, flight plans, etc.) used Arabic for all missions, even if the patch used Roman. Artemis I was obviously not an issue, but I see that the Artemis II patch has both "A II" and a stylized "2" on it. The press kit refers to "Artemis II." Has NASA got around to issuing any mission reports yet? My wife keeps telling me I live in the past, but even I feel — a quarter of the way through the 21st century — that Roman numbers have had their day, and I tend to agree with Neil Armstrong that they will simply confuse people. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 56724 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-28-2026 06:32 PM
NASA's official Artemis mission designations are expressed in Roman numerals.The Artemis II crew made a point of it, saying that they were designating their mission "AII," as it could also be read as "ALL" and they sought "to explore for all and by all." The red vector on the Artemis II patch is not intended to be an Arabic "2," but rather than trajectory followed by the mission. As for earlier use of Roman numerals, from NASA SP-4402, "Origins of NASA Names": Until 1969, NASA chose roman numerals to designate successful flight missions, although there were notable exceptions. See Gemini missions numeral designations for an earlier related discussion. |
Blackarrow Member Posts: 3971 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-29-2026 05:00 PM
I find it hard to believe that the "red vector" wasn't intended to be a stylized "2" perhaps as a nod to the use of a stylized "8" on the Apollo 8 patch, which of course traced out the Earth-Moon-Earth trajectory.What I asked was whether NASA has set out a definitive, official stance on the use of Roman numerals. I'm not sure that document you cite counts as definitive proof. Might it be no more than one PR writer's take on the subject? Is there an official NASA press release stating that "we are officially using Roman numerals for all Artemis mission numbering"? My tongue is slightly in my cheek when I wonder if the use of Roman numerals is a long-term plan intended to avoid having an Artemis 13 mission. After all, didn't it work well for Apollo XIII.....? | |
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