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bibliophile
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posted 09-01-2025 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibliophile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My collection of books on space exploration includes some that are allegedly signed but I have no provenance of any kind. Three examples:
  1. Volume 1 of Briefwechsel by Hermann Oberth has a simple "H.Oberth" on the front free endpaper (FFE). Under a 10x lens it doesn't look like the text print but autopens go way back, so....

  2. "Diary of a Cosmonaut" is signed under the photo of V. Lebedev facing the title page. Autopen?

  3. "America's Astronauts and Their Indestructible Spirit" appears to by signed by Dr. Fred Kelly.
There are a few others so I'm open to suggestions.

Axman
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posted 09-02-2025 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Axman   Click Here to Email Axman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hermann Oberth was a prolific signer. I have little reason to believe he ever used an autopen, especially not on an endpaper of a bulky object like a book.

[Edit] I've had it confirmed through private correspondence that Oberth did not have an autopen machine.

cosmos-walter
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posted 09-02-2025 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alan, I fully agree with you. Hermann Oberth did not have an autopen.

Russian cosmonauts also did not have an autopen till ASTP in 1975. Aleksei Leonov and Valeri Kubasov had autopens at Houston MSC. I am not sure, whether later cosmonauts flying with US astronauts like ISS-1 Yuri Gidsenko and Sergey Krikalov had autopens.

bibliophile
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posted 09-03-2025 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibliophile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Axman:
Hermann Oberth was a prolific signer.
Thanks. That seems to imply that the chances of the signature being genuine hand-signed have increased. Is Oberth's signature a known target for forgery?

astrobock
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posted 09-03-2025 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrobock   Click Here to Email astrobock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No.

Axman
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posted 09-04-2025 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Axman   Click Here to Email Axman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As astobock says, he wasn't a target for forgery. He signed so many pieces, and his autographs aren't greatly sought after that as a consequence they aren't particularly valuable, and therefore not a forgery target.

And, his usual signature is a plain "H. Oberth"

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