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benfairfax
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posted 03-16-2012 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benfairfax   Click Here to Email benfairfax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something everyone should watch. So true.
How much would you pay for the Universe? #Penny4NASA

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Neil deGrasse Tyson - We Stopped Dreaming (Episode 1)

xlsteve
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posted 03-16-2012 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xlsteve   Click Here to Email xlsteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. Very eloquently said. Thanks for posting this.

Philip
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posted 03-16-2012 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for pointing this out... a must see video!

bruce
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posted 03-16-2012 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bruce   Click Here to Email bruce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hear, hear!

cspg
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posted 03-16-2012 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Tomorrow's gone."

Hey, I am THE cynic-pessimistic-disenchanted representative over here! or

Yet everything he says is unfortunately so true.

I'll add one note: mathematicians don't go working for NASA or aerospace companies. They work for banks, developing financial products which lead to the bailout Mr deGrasse Tyson mentions.

Gilbert
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posted 03-16-2012 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great video.

Jay Chladek
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posted 03-16-2012 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
I'll add one note: mathematicians don't go working for NASA or aerospace companies.
No, those aren't mathematicians, those are accountants. Okay, maybe there are some theoretical accountants who crunch the numbers with some formulas, but it is a little different. Having somebody who is willing to crunch the numbers to get an object from the surface of the Earth to 17,500 mph first, than on to something traveling billions of miles away... THAT is mathematics!

My message to the rest of you is don't just sit on the sidelines and say "he's right, we suck." Don't be pessimistic about what we don't have and say how the past was better than the present. If that is all you care about, all these trinkets and writings from people who have been there as you look back on past glory, fine. It can still be so much more than that if you put voices to use.

Instead I say be positive about what we COULD have. Encourage others to dream big. Plant that seed. Write your elected representatives and tell them your feelings. I was surprised at the reception I got two years ago when I actually wrote (not emailed) members of congress about the budget matters. Sure, Constellation got cut, but at least funding was allocated to keep Orion and elements of Ares alive.

This was just me, one guy, a relative nobody to the likes of Cernan, Armstrong, Lovell, but somebody who was saying almost exactly the same things they were when they testified before the House and Senate. And I don't even live in a state that has a NASA center. Imagine what hundreds of people could do? Imagine what thousands could do? Or would we rather just sit back and collect our treasure without spending blood?

GoesTo11
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posted 03-18-2012 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great video...but sorry, kids. We don't dream the big stuff anymore.

It's moments like watching that video that I wonder whether my space obsession is an expression of hope for the future, or just a sad exercise in pointless nostalgia. I think I know the answer, but can't quite face it.

Jay Chladek
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posted 03-18-2012 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, but my point is the reason we don't dream anymore is because we tell ourselves that we don't dream anymore. Sure, it is difficult and we tend to take the easy way out and just say "its too hard to even try". Wow, are we really that tapped out in the dream department?

cspg
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posted 03-19-2012 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jay Chladek:
No, those aren't mathematicians, those are accountants.
I was referring to graduates in mathematics who are more likely to find jobs in the financial sector than in aerospace or other technical fields (more opportunities and better pay). At least that's what I've head in the news.

cspg
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posted 03-19-2012 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GoesTo11:
We don't dream the big stuff anymore.
Maybe they dream of something else?
quote:
It's moments like watching that video that I wonder whether my space obsession is an expression of hope for the future, or just a sad exercise in pointless nostalgia.
Or simply we could be living a very different present had not "everything" been thrown in the dumpster.

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