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Jay Gallentine
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posted 05-16-2012 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This past week I wrapped up a series of new interviews with Viktor Kerzhanovich. He worked on many of the Venus landing projects and was involved with the two balloons that the Soviet Union flew in the Venusian atmosphere.

This material will fold into the section I'm doing up right now on the 'Vega' flights to Venus and Halley's comet. That's an odd combo perhaps, but makes sense in the context of celestial mechanics. Vega also definitely represented a 'compromise' mission, in which an original idea was modified in order to accommodate several goals.

I probably have one or two interviews left and then this last section will come together over the late summer months. This fall and early winter are budgeted for revisions and, unfortunately, some trimming. As usual, these people have done so many interesting things that it's hard to encapsulate it all in one book - especially with my 'day-by-day in the trenches' approach that I sometimes fall in to.

Looking forward to seeing many of you at Spacefest!

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posted 07-24-2012 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Superb Jay and great to see you could have interviews with some of Russia's leading space engineers. Can't wait to get my hands on the book...

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posted 08-05-2012 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it's about three months 'til deadline.

Pretty much every spare moment is being channeled into fleshing out material in the final chapters, and slimming some of the earlier ones.

Since my last post I've conducted additional interviews, and refined major sections of the text. There is kind of a 'boiling down' process that is happening right now.

Many Viking folks are monitoring Curiosity quite closely, as all are interested in seeing the results of its tests on Martian soil. This machine could endorse, nullify, or completely re-write the Viking results. No pressure there!

Thanks again for all the support.

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posted 08-05-2012 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jiffyq58   Click Here to Email jiffyq58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jay, it was great to meet you at Spacefest. Our conversations were among the highlights of that event for me.

Really looking forward to the new book. In the meantime, I'm staying up late with my fingers crossed, to watch and see if Curiosity can execute that soft landing tonight! — Jeff

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posted 08-25-2012 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeff, thanks for your kind post; that means a lot. I'm working on the final chapters right now. About two months until the first deadline. And hooray for Curiosity!

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posted 10-10-2012 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can report that the book is drafted in its entirety. During these few remaining weeks until deadline, I am plowing through corrections and trying to trim the text down a bit.

Verifying details from missions like Viking and Venera has me in daily contact with multiple participants. Many of these people are in their late 70s, or early/mid 80s, and can still talk about this stuff like it was yesterday.

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posted 10-10-2012 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Superb Jay, we're certainly looking forward to your second book!

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posted 10-10-2012 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jay Gallentine:
Many of these people are in their late 70s, or early/mid 80s, and can still talk about this stuff like it was yesterday.

Lucky them and lucky you. Those moments are simply priceless.

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posted 10-10-2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jiffyq58   Click Here to Email jiffyq58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jay, it all sounds pretty exciting. This past weekend, I was given a box of my "space stuff" from my parents, and this was stuff I hadn't seen since the mid-70s. I found what looks like a complete set of the bulletins JPL sent to interested parties about the Mariner 9 mission as it progressed. That was the best you could do back in the pre-internet days. I've got a bunch of those bulletins for Mariner 10, too, but not sure yet if it is most or all of them.

Anyway, it is a lot of fun going through all of the stuff I collected/hoarded about both manned and unmanned space exploration. I can't wait to be reminded about a lot of that, and to learn many, many new things about our planetary explorations from your forthcoming book.

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posted 10-13-2012 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just heard through the grapevine that there might be a change of title as the second book focuses on the missions to the rocky inner planets Venus and Mars?

Jay Gallentine
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posted 10-31-2012 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first draft of the manuscript has gone to the publisher. Of course, for me it's about the sixth or seventh draft, but this marks the initial submission to them. Colin has been seeing the chapters along the way.

Still very much to do - some factual corrections didn't make the deadline, and it's still too long. But the work has come a very long way and I'm excited to tell some stories that frankly have never been heard before.

I am also aiming for 100% previously-unpublished pictures. Not sure if I'll make that, but it'll be close anyhow!

cspg, you're absolutely correct that the moments of personal contact with these people are priceless. There are days when I think about all the history that these people have seen, and here I am trying to pull just a little more out of them, and it's truly a fortunate position to be in.

jiffyq58, you've got some priceless material there in those Mariner reports! Hang on to that stuff; it's quite difficult to find hard-copy originals.

And Philip, you are correct that the final title is still in flux. The book focuses squarely on the inner solar system - our first landings and rovings and testings for life. The title needs to reflect that, while still evoking the grandeur and majesty of exploration.

Thanks again for all your support!

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posted 05-11-2013 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jay, how's the writing progressing on the 2nd book... Definitive title yet?

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posted 05-13-2013 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the nudge!

At this stage, the book is tightening up nicely. I have been doing a complete front-to-back read-through which, to the dismay of my family, is being done out loud. But it's pretty much the only way I can gauge how smoothly the text is reading. (Ambassadors from Earth was read out loud at least three times. Occasionally I had to go out and sit in the car to do this.)

My list of corrections is now mercifully short.

Also, the state of the pictures has really improved. I continue to hunt for those elusive gems - shots from people's basements that nobody has ever seen before. And overall, I am quite pleased with the results so far. My scanner has been working overtime as I've processed old photographs, someone's yearbook photo, and even an original printout of data from Viking.

I believe the Press is still aiming for a release in 2014. And it'll be ready!

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posted 05-14-2013 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jay Gallentine:
(Ambassadors from Earth was read out loud at least three times. Occasionally I had to go out and sit in the car to do this.)

Writing doesn't seem to be that much fun but when you tell it like this, it made me laugh. Sorry. (Watch out for the neighbors, they might think you're a weirdo from another planet!).

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posted 05-17-2013 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What seems to drive the family MOST crazy is when I am trying to determine which version of a sentence sounds best. Each sentence must sound as if there was no other choice except to structure it THAT way. Also, I try to avoid unintentional alliteration at ALL COSTS, so this leads to repetitive readings of multiple versions of a single sentence - all out loud, of course.

I used to edit movies and TV shows, so this sort of repetition is old hat and no big deal. If the earbud had yet to be invented, I'm sure I'd be living on the street.

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posted 06-14-2013 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This week a package of imagery went off to the publisher. Excited to report that 41 of the 50 images have never before been in print!

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posted 06-17-2013 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the update Jay... looking forward to the book!

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posted 09-18-2013 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The final draft manuscript is now in the hands of the publisher. Not done yet, but a major step closer!

Right now the length is very similar to that of Ambassadors. At my worst I think I was about 13,000 words over budget, but through some tough decisions was able to cut back to fighting weight.

I'll keep y'all posted!

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posted 09-26-2013 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you already have a cover design?

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posted 10-05-2013 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not yet have a cover design. The Press assigns a designer to a book project, and as I understand it, the designer has a lot of influence on the final cover choice. On Ambassadors I was very pleased with the cover design, and so part of the excitement for me is seeing what they come up with!

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posted 10-06-2013 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.K. Jay curious to see what they will select...

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Any updates on the cover choice for "Touching Infinity"?

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posted 12-21-2013 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Title still not finalized: "Infinity Beckoned: Adventuring through the Inner Solar System"

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posted 12-21-2013 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For some reason, it was easier to name my children than it has been to name this book. But what Philip reports is indeed the 'current working title'.

I like it for a variety of reasons. I like that the title is somewhat majestic while the sub-title explains what's inside. I like the idea that the unknown can beckon. I like the Romper-Room, tramp-through-the-mud feel of 'adventuring'. So there you go!

The next hurdle I suppose is the cover art. Still under discussion.

I've also heard word back that the manuscript was received well by reviewers, although all involved parties agree that it should be shorter. So that will occupy my next couple of months, with the idea of having it out in 2014!

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Wait, which is it? "Touching Infinity" or "Infinity Beckoned?" Because the former sounds a heck of a lot better than the latter.

Also, "adventuring" might technically be a word, but it shouldn't be. Give it some more thought, Jay.

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posted 03-29-2014 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could say that today was a big day, but all I did was take the box to the Post Office. The last three months of effort, really, have culminated in the Post Office trip.

Late last year the Press got back to me and said that they really liked the manuscript, but would like for it to be somewhat shorter. It's true: I can be really long-winded. I began that process of shortening just after the New Year and finished last weekend.

Although I was certainly sorry to see some of the material go, really it's a tighter and better book overall now.

I get asked a lot about what the process is like to submit the final work, so I'll try to cover that here.

When you're done making changes to the manuscript, it has to be formatted and printed in a very specific fashion which is detailed on a two-page handout that gets sent to you. Double-space, 12pt. Courier, etc.

Then you have to print two copies of it, but don't bind them or anything. Just rubber-band the pages:

The images take a lot of preparation. They have to be of sufficient resolution to be useful, and you have to have permission for every shot you use. The upshot of this is, don't submit low-res pictures you downloaded off the web and don't have permission for!

Each picture must be numbered, captioned, and printed out on its own page. You must also indicate whether a shot should be cropped:

The photo permissions all go into a binder. Joining those are written releases for each person you interviewed:

So by the time you're done, the binder is full of permissions and photo captions and cropping indications, your CV, and a sort of mini-bio sheet:

So once that is done, you burn data DVDs of your imagery and manuscript files. They go into the binder as well. You include a cover letter telling the publishers all about what amazing people they are and how thankful you are to be working for them (which is ALL TRUE, by the way). Then it's (finally) off to the Post Office.

I wrote the proposal for this book in 2008, while Ambassadors was still in copy-edit. So I must say it's a bit surreal to have made it to this stage and still have my sanity.

In a few months I should receive the copy-edited manuscript and will have the penultimate chance to modify things.

Thanks for reading, and now it's off to find a cover!

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Wow! Thanks for sharing the process.

I can easily see how one could lose his/her sanity...

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Jay, thanks for the update. I will definitely buy the book.

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One of these days, Jay, maybe you'll be able to go back and publish a special "Author's Cut" of these two books with special added material that you had to edit out for reasons of length, but which you think that people who really liked the books will enjoy. Or maybe that will only be available as an e-book. Whatever, it's a thought, eh?

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Jay, I have previously posted how much I enjoyed Ambassadors From Earth, and I (too) eagerly await this next book. I cannot wait.

Any update on the cover art?

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Thanks for sharing Jay... unique photo of Roald Sagdeev at work. Looking forward to the book (with Mars photo as cover art?)!

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posted 12-19-2014 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroborg   Click Here to Email astroborg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been quiet on this thread. Any news on the publication of this book, Jay?

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Due to the high number of new publications, the release seems to be postponed by six months for marketing reasons...

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Yes Jay, this is one I'm very much looking forward to reading too!

When's it going to be published?

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posted 01-04-2015 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so sorry to be out of touch.

The completed and revised manuscript has been in the hands of the publisher for several months now, and is in the process of being copy-edited. I should see that back any time.

All the final picture selections have been made and turned in. I forget if I said this already, but somewhere around 90% of the book pictures have NEVER before been in print. I'm very pleased about that.

I do have a draft of the cover but it's nothing final and hinges on a photographic permission. I just can't post that quite yet.

But I am very VERY pleased to report that a wonderfully thoughtful Foreword to Infinity Beckoned has been written by "Mohawk Guy" Bobak Ferdowsi from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. No matter what that guy does, he seems to do it rather well!

As it stands, the book is due out in late summer/early autumn of 2015.

I can't tell you how much it means to have all you folks enthused about this project. It's been a real journey for me, with some amazing stories to tell that haven't been heard anyplace else.

I'll try to be better about checking back on this thread! All the best and Happy New Year,

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posted 01-13-2015 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroborg   Click Here to Email astroborg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Jay!

By the way, what does it look like the final page count will be?

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Very interesting post from March 2014 about the deliverbles for a book Jay. Thanks for that and I'm looking forward to this one!

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I'm looking forward to this one, Jay!

Jay Gallentine
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posted 01-17-2015 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Gallentine   Click Here to Email Jay Gallentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the kind comments.

Astroborg, I don't yet have the final page count and probably won't until early summer at least. It's a little shorter than Ambassadors, which ran something like 530 pages. So maybe 500 pages or so.

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posted 01-17-2015 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless things change, Jay's new book is listed with the Nebraska Press for a Fall 2015 release, along with the Rick Houston/Milt Heflin MOCR volume in the Outward Odyssey series, "Go, Flight!"


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