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liebeek
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posted 07-10-2009 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liebeek   Click Here to Email liebeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Did you try contacting the store about mail order to Europe for Schmitt?
I haven't been successful when doing just that. I seem not to be able to get through via mail. Thanks for asking.

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posted 07-11-2009 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liebeek   Click Here to Email liebeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was most unfortunate. I just phoned the Borders shop which is listed in the Sightings section as having the Schmitt signing at 1:00 p.m. on the 11th of July. I had a man on the phone who could not believe I was really calling from The Netherlands. He told me I missed the event by 8 hours otherwise he could have asked a copy signed for me.

He told me it was 9:00 a.m. there now so the event must have been at 1:00 a.m. USA time instead of 1:00 p.m. Or am I lost here? Pity, anyway.

I might have called the wrong one, I'll try another number.

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That's strange; 1 PM in Albuquerque, NM is still two hours from now. 505-797-5681 is the correct number for the store where the signing is being held. Did you try again with any better luck?

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posted 07-11-2009 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liebeek   Click Here to Email liebeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried another number and that was the right one.

The only thing is now that I could not get a straight answer to my question as the manager was not in yet.

I received an e-mail address to ask again and have to wait until somebody answers.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Found several copies in the Astronaut Hall of Fame this afternoon ...there wasn't a launch, after all, to attend. It wasn't in the system at check-out, so the cashier got another disc that cost $24.99, scanned it and let me take "The Wonder of it All".

Hands down, it's better than "In The Shadow of the Moon". It contained several nuggets I'd never heard before...

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Should have had an answer by now, I think, so I suppose I will have to buy myself an unsigned copy as soon as it arrives here in Europe.

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Hands down, it's better than "In The Shadow of the Moon"....

Rarely has such a bright light spent so long under a bushel...

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posted 07-13-2009 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liebeek   Click Here to Email liebeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got one thanks to a cS member! Much appreciated and thanks again Steve!

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posted 07-13-2009 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hands down, it's better than "In The Shadow of the Moon". It contained several nuggets I'd never heard before...

While they are both good films, I'd give the edge to "In the Shadow of the Moon." It did a better job conveying just how magical the lunar journey must have been seemed to those who made the voyage. Plus, the film had the benefit of having Mike Collins in it. He pretty much stole the whole show.

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posted 07-16-2009 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neke   Click Here to Email neke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got my copy, signed by Harrison Schmitt, in the mail from Borders. I can't wait to watch it! It's signed on the outside of the plastic case of the DVD, which would be fine if it hadn't gotten a nasty crack in the case in the mail. Oh well, guess I will be busy with the superglue tonight. I'm still excited to have it.

But I did notice one VERY weird detail. On the back of the DVD case at the bottom, the heads of all seven moonwalkers featured in the film have been Photoshopped into Apollo 1 suits from the well known photo of the Apollo 1 crew in front of (what I assume is) the launch tower. I can't imagine why; how much more difficult would it have been to Photoshop them into a group with their own space suits?

Check it out:

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posted 07-29-2009 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xlsteve   Click Here to Email xlsteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got this from Amazon yesterday, and watched it last night. It is very good. I believe Robert described it earlier as 'poignant,' and that's how I would describe it as well. When Gene Cernan talks about his last steps on the moon, you can see he is moved by that memory. Or Alan Bean talking about being asked by Pete Conrad to join the Apollo 12 crew, and a number of other moments. I even saw a different side of Buzz Aldrin than you see in more traditional documentaries.

The outtakes are pretty amusing. The segment where a cat walks in during Buzz's interview is particularly funny (especially if you're a cat person as I am).

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posted 08-03-2009 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pmbasta   Click Here to Email pmbasta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But I did notice one VERY weird detail. On the back of the DVD case at the bottom, the heads of all seven moonwalkers featured in the film have been Photoshopped into Apollo 1 suits from the well known photo of the Apollo 1 crew in front of (what I assume is) the launch tower....
You are absolutely correct - the graphic art designer / artist working with our distribution company took a bit too much liberty in using the Apollo 1 suits and we didn't catch it in time for the 1st pressing of the DVD! It's difficult to explain how this process works, suffice to say that you are as good as your eyes when proofing art work on a deadline. This one got by us. We are actually going to correct this for the subsequent DVD & BRD cover art runs. The use of the A6L suit images will be replaced by the A7L suit. We hope that, for those of you out there that might have taken offense by the art work, that you understand it wasn't intentional. The last thing we would ever want to do is disrespect the memory of the Apollo 1 crew.

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posted 08-03-2009 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paulushumungus   Click Here to Email paulushumungus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are always two ways of looking at things and in a way you could look at it as a tribute to the Apollo 1 crew.

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posted 08-03-2009 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't seen this documentary as yet but I have heard from friends in the States that "The Wonder of it All" is pretty close to unmissable, and so I have a copy on its way over here. I love the title, and if the glowing comments I've heard so far are any indication, then I know I'm just going to love the film as well. That's the remarkable thing about Apollo; just when you think you've read or seen everything, these little gems bob to the surface to fill you with awe yet again. Don't you just love this hobby?

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posted 08-03-2009 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wondered if anyone else caught a small detail in the Aldrin interview segments...

In the background he has a bookshelf with models and a few books stacked up. One title is "Return to the Moon" by Homer Hickam. But in some shots, presumably filmed on different days (I think Jeffrey said they shot two full days with Aldrin) the book is replaced with "Lost Spacecraft" by Curt Newport.

Given Aldrin's outspoken opinions about bypassing the moon and going directly to Mars, I would suspect that the book switch was not by accident. I can just see the look on his face when he realized that title was in every shot they filmed that day!

The film was a really nice piece of work, and I think it complements "Shadow" very well. These two documentaries will likely never be topped.

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posted 08-04-2009 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikej   Click Here to Email mikej     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I wondered if anyone else caught a small detail in the Aldrin interview segments...
This was covered earlier in this thread (actually, I posted the reply then, too).

I caught a screening of it at the USSRC and asked Jeffrey Roth about it, hoping that there would be a story behind it.

Nothing quite so interesting. One of the crew noticed the "Lost Spacecraft" book, thought it had a negative connotation, and they swapped it out.

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Sorry I missed the earlier post, but that's interesting... I'm surprised Buzz offered up that title to replace "Lost Spacecraft."

I would have guessed he'd grab Collins' "Mission to Mars" or similar subject material. Thanks!

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posted 08-10-2009 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has the initial release sold out? Most websites have the DVD as being a 1-2 month backorder at present.

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posted 08-11-2009 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capoetc   Click Here to Email capoetc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't find it either.

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Advance copies of the DVD were shipped in limited supply to support Apollo 40th anniversary activities and astronaut appearances, but the DVD and Blu-Ray is set for release on September 8 according to Indican Pictures.

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One of the crew noticed the "Lost Spacecraft" book, thought it had a negative connotation, and they swapped it out.

If usable footage was already shot with the "Lost Spacecraft" book in the background (and therefore the book title would presumably be seen regardless of the switch), why would they purposely introduce a continuity error into the filming? That makes no sense at all.

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My Borders store here in Albuquerque has dozens of them on the shelf.
As far as I saw none of the copies there were signed.

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Called the Borders in Albuquerque and they would no longer ship a copy out via a credit card unless I went in person with credit card in hand. The person on the phone said something about the fact they had "gotten burned" by an order, so no more phone orders. Only through Borders.com.

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posted 08-18-2009 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just got notification that my backordered copy from borders.com has shipped.

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I watched this on Tuesday night, and re-watched "In the Shadow of the Moon" last night. I enjoyed them both. Having met many of the astronauts, it's nice to feel like you're having a conversation with them.

What struck me is how similar were the conversations with a given astronaut in the two movies. In some cases, sentences were nearly word-for-word identical. This illustrated for me the point made by one of the astros in "Voices from the Moon," that after 40 years of answering the same questions, you cease to find new ways to talk about the events of a very short period in your life.

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I think this had alot to do with the fact that the projects were filmed at virtually the same time. I notice that over the years a particular astronaut's presentation of the story changes slightly, but among interviews or speeches of the same period, remains very consistent.

Film producers also tend to zero in on many of those little gems, like soundbites that work well on the evening news. Even though there is alot of other great material, it doesn't make it into the final product, but sadly is left on the cutting room floor.

This is one of the great, great things that both of these film producers did...adding the extras, both outtakes and extended/ deleted scenes that add alot to the DVD.

Having said that, while conducting interviews for a book project myself, it can be very, very difficult to solicit new material from men with memories from 40 years ago. Even with great effort by the interviewer, there can be a tendency for them to fall into familiar descriptions of the events.

As the writer, and being very familiar with these events, I'm looking for that little nugget that I and others have never heard before. But even with the astronauts' great generosity of talking with me for hours, I have to admit that these can be hard to come by.

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I think that was one of the great things about Andy Chaikin's "Voices from the Moon" - in a sense, he gave us some sound bites from the cutting room floor of his interviews from the 1980's and 1990's.

I had to laugh when I read your note about the astronauts falling "into familiar descriptions of the events." One of my frustrations in trying to interview my dad in his later years was that it would be like dropping a phonograph needle into a groove on a record. I'd get the same stories, told the same way, and I would eventually start to tune out. When my then-recently-married second wife joined me on some of these discussions, she was able to ask him a few questions that actually broke the cycle. The previously unasked questions made him think, if only for a few sentences, before the needle found its way back into the groove again.

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I just watched this on DVD tonight. I enjoyed it as much as the other members, but I especially wanted to direct people's attention to the John Young presentation in the extras section. The guy's a real firecracker, and a joy to listen to.

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John Young is so interesting to watch on DVD. He sits stone still. His head barely moves when he speaks. He'll say something that makes him smile or laugh for a fraction of a second and then he's right back to the rigid pose again!

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But I did notice one VERY weird detail. On the back of the DVD case at the bottom, the heads of all seven moonwalkers featured in the film have been Photoshopped into Apollo 1 suits from the well known photo of the Apollo 1 crew in front of (what I assume is) the launch tower.
I want to inform Neke and all who are interested, that our distribution company has changed a few things for "The Wonder of it All" Blu-ray release. Having feedback is one thing, but having the timing to act upon it is another. Fortunately they had the opportunity to act upon this before the deadlines came down around us. The back of the blu-ray cover wrap now depicts our Apollo cast members in their appropriate suits. The distribution company has expanded the bonus materials to include an interview with Margaret Chaffee also. Once again, thank you for the feedback.

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Are there any plans for a European DVD release of the film?

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Wonder's website has DVDs signed by Edgar Mitchell and from the Director. They have priced the items pretty low considering Edgar charges at least $50 for his signature.

I am very happy that the film has been released.

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"The Wonder Of It All" : Enquiry # 387

OK, I'm joking, it just seems like I've asked about this film 387 times. My question: can anyone confirm that the American Bluray version will play on British Bluray players? I have seen the film reviewed on a site which says it is good for Regions A(1) and B(2) but has not been tested for Region C(3). There must be someone in the UK who has taken the plunge and can say whether I can safely take the plunge. And don't tell me to ask the film distributors. I did. They don't know because they didn't replicate the discs!!

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Axelmusic.com is a site which lists which US blu-rays are region B compatible. Once they get a copy they will confirm if it is so.

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I recently decided to buy an imported Region 1 DVD version of "Wonder". It was actually intended to be my brother's Christmas present to me. I wasn't sure if it would even arrive in time for Christmas, but I can now say, in the words of Jim Lovell: "Please be advised there IS a Santa Claus!" My copy of "Wonder" is sitting, colourfully wrapped, under the tree waiting to be viewed on Christmas Day. At last! At last!

As an aside, I will be interested to see if I actually need to use my multi-region DVD player. I also recently bought the Region 1 NTSC DVD "Apollo 13: To the Edge and Back" and it plays (and upscales) perfectly in my Sony BluRay player.

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...And I can confirm that my Region 1 DVD of "The Wonder of it All" plays beautifully on my BluRay. On an HD TV the upscaling produces a high quality picture. I hope that might be of some interest to other Region 2 PAL viewers.

And what of the film? Absolutely first class. Even though I've heard many of the anecdotes before, the overall effect is both striking and moving. This film will be an invaluable resource for future generations. I have read various posts comparing "Wonder" with "In the Shadow of the Moon." If you push me, I would give the edge to "Shadow" because of the contributions by Michael Collins, but I think the two films tell the same story in slightly different ways and should be viewed and remembered together. We are all the richer for having both, and the two now sit side-by-side on my space DVD shelf.

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I finally got a Blu Ray copy and watched this terrific film. But the most terrific part is the interview with Margaret Chaffee. She is extraordinary in talking about Roger and his upcoming flight. Highly recommended!

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But the most terrific part is the interview with Margaret Chaffee.
I'd love to see that interview, but don't really want to buy the blu ray just to get it... is it available anywhere else?

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The Wonder of it All will be premiering on Starz April 1st.

I would prefer to remember Buzz from this film then from Dancing with the Stars.

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Is this movie only available in the 4:3 format - not widescreen?

I see it is available on Blu-ray but not much of a point in that if it is in the old style screen format.


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