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heng44
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posted 10-19-2019 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The prime and backup crews for Apollo 2 pose with MIT engineers during a training session with the Apollo navigation equipment at the MIT Instrumentation Laboratory on October 19, 1966. Front row (left to right): Wally Schirra, prime command pilot; Walt Cunningham, prime pilot; Donn Eisele, prime senior pilot; Tom Stafford, backup senior pilot; Mike Collins, backup pilot; and Frank Borman, backup command pilot. Middle row (left to right): Russel Larson, Balraj Socappa, Wayne Templeman, Jerry Levine, Duson Alexander 'Alex' Koso, James 'Jim' Nevins and David Hoag. Back row (left to right): Ralph Ragan, Malcolm Johnston, Jack Dunbar, Jack Schellingfurd, unknown, John Dunbar, Dan Lickly and Ivan Johnson. Apollo 2 was cancelled after the Apollo 1 fire.

Delta7
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posted 10-19-2019 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually that Apollo 2 mission was canceled prior to the Apollo 1 fire, in late 1966. Schirra, Eisele and Cunningham were reassigned as backup crew for Apollo 1.Cool pic.

heng44
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posted 10-19-2019 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are right, of course. I meant to say that after the fire there would be no manned Apollo 2 or 3, for which crews had already been selected before the fire.

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posted 10-19-2019 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a matter of historical record that Wally Schirra thought that mission was an unnecessary repeat of Apollo 1 and was quite vocal with his opinion.

His face kind of says it all.

Tom
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posted 10-19-2019 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great photo, Ed... thanks for sharing.

ejectr
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posted 10-20-2019 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Were these engineers from MIT Draper Labs? I used to sell them CNC machines in the 1980's.

Fra Mauro
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posted 10-20-2019 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's always nice to see the "people behind the scenes" of the space program.

dtemple
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posted 10-20-2019 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so used to Facebook, that every time one of these photos is posted, for an instant, I look for the "like" button!

heng44
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posted 10-20-2019 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ejectr:
Were these engineers from MIT Draper Labs?
Yes, that is correct.

PJ Downunder
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posted 10-29-2019 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PJ Downunder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delta7:
Actually that Apollo 2 mission was canceled prior to the Apollo 1 fire, in late 1966. Schirra, Eisele and Cunningham were reassigned as backup crew for Apollo 1.Cool pic.

and so ending Collins' one chance of walking on the moon.

Henry Heatherbank
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posted 10-29-2019 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
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...and so ending Collins' one chance of walking on the moon.
As LMP. Of course, he was informally offered command of Apollo 17 in late 1969/early 1970 but turned it down.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 10-29-2019 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The flight crew for the Apollo 2 mission (second manned Apollo flight) were first named on Sept. 29, 1966. Apollo 2 had been planned as an open-ended Earth orbital mission up to 14 days with increased emphasis on scientific experiments as well as the repeating of some activities from the first manned flight.

Apparently Schirra did prevail with his argument in November 1966 of not flying Apollo 2 at all, with top NASA management approving Apollo 2's cancellation altogether.

ManInSpace
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posted 10-29-2019 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ManInSpace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Henry Heatherbank:
Of course, he was informally offered command of Apollo 17 in late 1969/early 1970 but turned it down.
Actually Collins wrote in his autobiography that he was offered (and declined) the 17 CDR slot prior to Apollo 11 when he and Slayton were both flying back to Houston from a training session at the Cape.

He had in fact already decided to retire; but wasn't going to release the news until after the flight.

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posted 10-29-2019 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As Collins wrote in "Carrying The Fire," he was "promoted" (the quote marks were his) from LMP to CMP after the cancellation of Apollo 2. And Deke Slayton in "Deke" stated that he considered Borman, Stafford and Collins a potential lunar landing crew.

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