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heng44
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posted 12-06-2014 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

After yesterday's successful Orion flight I thought an Apollo 4 picture would be appropriate for today. December 5, 2014 was a great day for the US space program! I haven't felt this excited in years.

East-Frisian
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posted 12-06-2014 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for East-Frisian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Ed, that was a good thought.

butch wilks
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posted 12-06-2014 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butch wilks   Click Here to Email butch wilks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As you're looking at this picture all you can thank of is "power raw power" that was the Saturn V!!!

Not the old big Titans, the shuttle, Ares I-X, yesterday's Delta 4 Heavy or to come the Falcon 9 Heavy, but maybe with the SLS will you have that look of all out power that the Saturn V has at launch with the five F-1 engines belching fire. You just think of one word "POWER".

Yes, yesterday was a good day.

Kite
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posted 12-06-2014 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great choice Ed. I wonder what the locals must have felt as that monster launched for the first time.

randy
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posted 12-06-2014 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It brings to mind a phrase from Tim Taylor in "Tool Time": MORE POWER!

dabolton
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posted 12-06-2014 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dabolton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would guess that no one (besides a few engineers) really knew how incredibly loud and impressive a full-up Saturn V would be before that day. I missed that era but I plan on attending the either the first Falcon Heavy and/or first block 2 SLS launch.

Michael Davis
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posted 12-06-2014 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Davis   Click Here to Email Michael Davis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was just something very special about the Saturn V. It looked like it was clawing to move out even when it was simply sitting on the pad. I have not seen that repeated by any other rocket.

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posted 12-06-2014 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for APG85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw Apollo 9 on the pad when I was a little kid. Back then the bus took you pretty close and we were lucky because the service gantry was rolled back. It was an amazing sight and it still sticks in my memory...

Skythings
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posted 12-06-2014 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skythings   Click Here to Email Skythings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question for those who have witnessed both a Saturn V and Shuttle launch in person.

Can you compare for me the Saturn V launch experience to a Shuttle launch?

I have been fortunate to attend two Shuttle launches in my lifetime. The Shuttle sound rumbled through the ground and then the sound intensity hit me like a blast wave and you felt this low rumble crackling sound similar to very close continuous thunder until the Shuttle was a considerable distance down range. The visual was impressive, but for me it was the most powerful sound I have ever heard. You felt it in the core of your body. All your internal organs vibrated.

Everyone claims the Saturn V was better so I am curious if you rated a Shuttle launch a 5, what would the Saturn V be?

tlifan2
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posted 12-06-2014 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tlifan2   Click Here to Email tlifan2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would rate a shuttle launch at 4 on a 1 to 5 scale (Saturns being a 5). I saw 4 Saturn V launches, the closest being on the road just to the left of the VAB, and they were all impressive. I've seen three shuttle launches, all from the causeway near the cape, including a night launch. The Saturn's typically were slower, 9 seconds to clear the tower vs. 6 seconds for the shuttle. The fact that the Saturns were so much larger than the shuttle also adds to the higher ranking. I should note that during the night shuttle launch, I took a moment to look back at the people watching the launch. The light from the shuttle exhaust was sufficient to read a newspaper.

My first launch experience was Apollo 8. We arrived the evening before, parked outside the main gate to the causeway to KSC (well over ten miles away), and slept in the car. Surreal is the only way to describe what I saw that night. The brilliant white Saturn and the bright red launch tower illuminated by the huge crossing floodlights. At launch I can still remember watching the Saturn rising and hearing nothing for so long until finally a warm breeze and the rumbling/popping sound reached us (this was in December). For a thirteen year old, it made a life-long impression.

OWL
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posted 12-07-2014 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OWL   Click Here to Email OWL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken Mattingly at his recent visit to Space Lectures spoke about the comparison of riding the Saturn V and the Shuttle.

I spent a lot of personal time with Ken over his four day visit and he told me there was a huge difference from the perspective of the astronaut.

The shaking, vibration and movement sensation of the Saturn V is so much more intense.

mach3valkyrie
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posted 12-07-2014 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach3valkyrie   Click Here to Email mach3valkyrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First, let me say I agree 100% with Ed that December 5, 2014 was a great day for the US Space Program. Time to get back on track.

While we're doing comparisons, from PAO Jack Riley during the launch of Apollo 15 "...each of the five S-1C engines gulping three tons of fuel per second..." and at 2:43 on the Orion launch the PAO states "...burning propellants at a rate of 4744 pounds per second..." (the entire stage)

Still extremely cool, but just not the same scale.

Go Orion, Go USA!

spaceheaded
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posted 12-12-2014 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceheaded     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Time for my periodic "Thank You" to Ed for posting these wonderful pictures, and for the thought put into each posting. Thank you, Ed! — Bill

heng44
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posted 12-13-2014 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Tom
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posted 12-13-2014 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was lucky enough to have seen a Saturn V, a Saturn IB and the shuttle launching. The shuttle I've seen from the press site and from Titusville, while the Saturn V was from SR-401 in Port Canaveral.

What I remember about the Apollo 15 (Saturn V) launch was how long it took to clear the launch tower as well as it's own initial plume of smoke. From my vantage point, due south of LC-39A, the vehicles exhaust was diverted north and south of the pad. It must have taken about 10 to 15 seconds to clear the smoke and become visible. The "orangy-gold" color of the engines firing at ignition is still etched in my mind. And while we were approximately 10 miles away, the rumbling and popping noise created by the 5 main engines was amazing.

I wish every space enthusiast had the opportunity to witness a Saturn V launch. Hopefully they'll get to see SLS in the near future.

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