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heng44
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posted 12-10-2011 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Gemini 12 onboard photo, taken by command pilot Jim Lovell during revolution 28 on November 13, 1966, showing pilot Buzz Aldrin during his EVA.

Ed Hengeveld

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posted 12-10-2011 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outstanding and beautiful photo!!! We were still taking our baby steps out of the spacecraft. Those days were so exciting with our eyes looking to the moon!! We still had a lot to learn!! THANK YOU Ed for posting it. Gemini was so exciting and many people forget all about it!

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posted 12-10-2011 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder what Buzz would have thought at the time if you told him that the next time he went out into vacuum, he'd be walking on the Moon...

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posted 12-10-2011 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for APG85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonder where his Gemini 12 EVA suit is... in storage?

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posted 12-10-2011 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you James Lovell for taking a nice series of EVA photos on Gemini 12.

Is the photo oriented the way Lovell would have seen Aldrin out the window?

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posted 12-10-2011 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LM-12:
Is the photo oriented the way Lovell would have seen Aldrin out the window?
No, it is upside-down in relation to Lovell's position. It is also cropped.

Lovell apparently had difficulty aiming his camera: Aldrin is partially out of frame in most of the pictures.

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posted 12-10-2011 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Considering the small Gemini window Lovell had to shoot through, I think he did pretty well.

These restorations are appreciated Ed.

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posted 12-10-2011 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidcwagner   Click Here to Email davidcwagner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was Buzz the first person to go EVA on two different flights?

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posted 12-10-2011 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by davidcwagner:
Was Buzz the first person to go EVA on two differet flights?

Yes he was.

Followed by Pete Conrad (Gemini XI counting exposure to vacuum as an EVA, Apollo 12) and Dave Scott (Apollo 9 SEVA and Apollo 15 SEVA), then Gene Cernan (Gemini IX-A, Apollo 17).

Which brings us to another interesting statistic, if you think about it: Dave Scott was the first person to conduct 3 EVAs (on Apollo 15's EVA 1) and then 4 and 5.

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posted 12-10-2011 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jim McDivitt was exposed to an EVA vacuum on Gemini 4 and Apollo 9.

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posted 12-10-2011 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By U.S. standards though, exposure to the vacuum of space is not considered going EVA.

Pre-shuttle, your body (or some part thereof) would have needed to exit the vehicle; during shuttle, your spacesuit would need to be switched to internal power.

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posted 12-10-2011 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unofficially, if you stayed inside the spacecraft - like Lovell - you could call it an internal EVA. I have seen it referred to as an "intra-vehicular activity" or IVA.

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posted 12-10-2011 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, using the pre-Shuttle exclusion of simply being exposed to vacuum not being an EVA, then McDivitt and Conrad lose out, as does John Young who stayed fully inside the Apollo 9 CSM. The first astronauts to conduct multiple EVAs on different missions are, in order:
  1. Aldrin (Gemini XII, Apollo 11)

  2. Scott (Apollo 9 SEVA, Apollo 15 SEVA);

  3. Cernan (Gemini IX-A, Apollo 17);

  4. Conrad (Apollo 12, SL-2)
Scott is still the first to do 3, 4 and 5 EVAs, unless I have overlooked something.

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posted 12-10-2011 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave Scott was scheduled to perform an EVA on Gemini 8.

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posted 12-11-2011 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Henry Heatherbank:
...as does John Young who stayed fully inside the Apollo 9 CSM.
Young on Apollo 9?

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posted 12-11-2011 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the white mist behind Aldrin some surrounding oxygen or a reflection in the window? Speaking of which, do we know this shot was taken out the window as opposed to out the door?

Thanks Ed for another fine image.

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posted 12-12-2011 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by moorouge:
Young on Apollo 9?
Sorry, absolute brain-failure on that one. You are quite right.

heng44
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posted 12-12-2011 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by garymilgrom:
Is the white mist behind Aldrin some surrounding oxygen or a reflection in the window?
This photo was taken through Lovell's window, so probably a reflection...

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posted 12-19-2011 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to se this photo uncropped, as Lovell saw it.

heng44
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posted 12-19-2011 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go, Lou.

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posted 12-19-2011 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amazing.

Lou Chinal
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posted 12-19-2011 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto Gilbert.

Thanks Ed.

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posted 12-23-2011 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like this Gemini video clip number FTV-0002722 from footagevault was taken at the same time as the Aldrin photo above.

Aldrin holds up two messages in the video: one is NOV 11 VETS DAY and the other is GO ARMY BEAT NAVY, the latter a response to the BEAT ARMY message on Gemini 6A.

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