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heng44
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posted 08-27-2011 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Space Shuttle Columbia is shown on the launch pad on April 3, 1997, after RSS rollback prior to STS-83. Visible in the sky at left center is comet Hale Bopp.

Ed Hengeveld

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posted 08-27-2011 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A comet in the sky? As Harold Godwin would have told you - a portend of a great disaster.

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posted 08-27-2011 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great photo, but I am assuming it is a composite. With such a bright fore ground how would you ever get enough light from the stars/comet in the background for the same exposure?

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posted 08-27-2011 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fred beat me to it - is this a composite Ed? It's very nice. I'd like to add a few galaxies courtesy of the Hubble - it would be a fitting tribute to the workhorse on the pad.

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posted 08-27-2011 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hale-Bopp was really bright. You could easily see it even before nightfall.

heng44
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posted 08-27-2011 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The caption does not mention it is a composite, but I am assuming it is.

canyon42
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posted 08-27-2011 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for canyon42   Click Here to Email canyon42     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is most definitely a composite, unless somebody put some extreme neutral density filters on all the lights shining on the shuttle!

Hale-Bopp was bright by comet standards, but it wasn't THAT bright. And certainly all those stars weren't.

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posted 08-27-2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alcyone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I observed Hale-Bopp from an urban area with lots of light pollution. Still got a good look at the comet though. I notice in the image that the lights from the pad look elongated, but Hale-Bopp and the stars do not look elongated, they appear normal. Excluding use of a composite, can someone explain this? I think it is a composite.

PeterO
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posted 08-27-2011 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a real photo of Hale-Bopp taken over the New York City skyline.

I'd say the shuttle photo is a composite too. Note how the stars end some distance from the shuttle pad, rather than continuing right up to the structures. To me that says that the original image was roughly cut out and pasted to the dark sky H-B image.

heng44
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posted 08-27-2011 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could be a double exposure then: first expose the Shuttle and cover the sky, then the other way around with a longer exposure time.

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posted 08-27-2011 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alcyone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite or not, and composites are not my favourites, the juxtaposition of high-tech spaceship and a beautiful astronomical object makes this pic a worthy selection to SHPW.

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posted 08-28-2011 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be it a composite, double exposure, photoshop or what used to be called "trick photography"; it is not something we expect from the space agency.

These days it is only too easy to play with imagery. Still, a bit surprised to see NASA take "artistic license" with their photography.

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posted 08-28-2011 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarylandSpace   Click Here to Email MarylandSpace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still a fun photo.

And, don't a lot of us on this website still dream?

canyon42
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posted 08-28-2011 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for canyon42   Click Here to Email canyon42     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anybody with certainty identify the direction of this view toward the pad? It is definitely some sort of "trick" photo (call it a composite or otherwise), but it would be interesting to know if it is even lined up correctly with a direction the comet might have appeared.

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posted 08-28-2011 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why not just enjoy it as a photo? Surely one can enjoy it for what it is? One doesn't pull a flower to pieces to appreciate its beauty.

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posted 08-28-2011 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with moorouge. Just enjoy the photo.

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posted 08-28-2011 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moorouge:
Why not just enjoy it as a photo?

Because it's not a true photo. It's a piece of fantasy artwork created using photos.

That doesn't mean one still can't enjoy it. Just be aware of what it really is.

canyon42
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posted 08-28-2011 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for canyon42   Click Here to Email canyon42     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly. Just like I don't care for "photos" of a full moon suspended in the middle of a sunset or sunrise. Or a "flower" constructed of petals from a variety of blooms.

With this, I don't much care one way or the other, as long as whoever manipulated it identified it as such.

Philip
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posted 08-29-2011 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice Ed but hopefully the comet is a sign of a new trend in SHPotWeek... to more (non-STS) photos.

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posted 09-15-2011 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo Redux   Click Here to Email Apollo Redux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crazy sky looks like an after-effect.

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