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heng44
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posted 01-06-2007 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

A relaxed-looking Jerry Carr and his suit technician joke with the NASA-photographer during suiting up for a training session. Carr commanded the record-breaking final Skylab-mission, which was launched in November 1973.

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posted 01-06-2007 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Skylab era photo, Ed...thanks!

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posted 01-06-2007 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FutureAstronaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really love the Snoopy Cap's.
Great picture!

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posted 01-06-2007 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kerwin look-alike technician I would say

heng44
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posted 01-06-2007 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know the suit tech's name?

Ed

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posted 01-07-2007 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carmelo   Click Here to Email carmelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But why the brown harness for Skylab spacesuits?

Tom
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posted 01-07-2007 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carmelo:
But why the brown harness for Skylab spacesuits?

Brown harness was also used on ASTP suits.
And for some reason, the Apollo 17 astronauts used brown flight suits while previous Apollo crews wore blue or white.

carmelo
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posted 01-08-2007 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carmelo   Click Here to Email carmelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...Skylab and ASTP flightsuit were brown,and the EES suits worn by STS-1/STS-4 Astronauts were...brown! In mid 70s-early 80s had be somewere NASA manager that loved the brown color.

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posted 01-08-2007 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DavidH   Click Here to Email DavidH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From "Homesteading Space," the forthcoming Skylab history from the Outward Odyssey series from the University of Nebraka Press:

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Eventually, the Skylab astronauts all agreed on a clothing set. It contained cotton T-shirts for warm weather wear, and provisioned a change of underwear every two days and of outerwear once a week. The outerwear was made of a fireproof cloth, polybenzemidazole (called PBI; "We couldn't pronounce it either," quipped Kerwin) that only came in a golden brown. But it was comfortable. Rejected were the proposed small-bore fiberglass (called "beta cloth") items, which itched.

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carmelo
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posted 01-08-2007 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carmelo   Click Here to Email carmelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is very important! are way to know if the outer layer cover os EES Shuttle suits (STS-1/STS-4) were to polybenzemidazole?

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posted 01-08-2007 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I belive the suits on STS-1 through STS-4 were SR-71/U-2 suits. All of the ones that I have seen were the gold/brownish color.

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posted 01-08-2007 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quoting U.S. Spacesuits by Kenneth S. Thomas and Harold J. McMann (page 38):
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The crew [of the first four shuttle launches] was outfitted with David Clark Company Model S1030A Ejection Escape Suits. These were 2.7 psi (18.6 kPa) full pressure suits that were a derivation of the US Air Force Model S1030 Pilot's Protective Assembly then worn by the crewmembers of the SR-71 high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft.
At least one of the suits (if not more) is believe to have been returned to the Air Force after its use by the shuttle program.

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posted 01-08-2007 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacewalker   Click Here to Email Spacewalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OV-105:
I belive the suits on STS-1 through STS-4 were SR-71/U-2 suits. All of the ones that I have seen were the gold/brownish color.
Yes, David Clark model S1030A but in some cases the outer layer was white and in some other gold/yellow.

As regards ASTP suit: Quoting U.S. Spacesuits by Kenneth S. Thomas and Harold J. McMann (page 228):

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Since there was no EVA, the suits were modified to reduce weight and cost. The normal outer cover layer of Teflon Beta Cloth with underlayers of aluminized Kapton with Nylon spacers was replaced with Teflon Beta polybenzimidazole (PBI) fabric, whitch increased its durability.

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posted 01-13-2007 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for icarkie   Click Here to Email icarkie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by heng44:
Anyone know the suit tech's name?
No Ed, but I was looking at another post on this site on the Apollo mission photo link the same guy is suiting up Haise.

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