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Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-16-2019 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA release
NASA Marshall to Lead Artemis Program's Human Lunar Lander Development

NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine was joined Friday (Aug. 16) by U.S. Representatives Mo Brooks and Robert Aderholt of Alabama and Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee at the agency's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, to announce the center's new role leading the agency's Human Landing System Program for its return to the Moon by 2024.

"Marshall Space Flight Center is the birthplace of America's space program. It was Marshall scientists and engineers who designed, built, tested, and helped launch the giant Saturn V rocket that carried astronauts on the Apollo missions to the Moon," Brooks said. "Marshall has unique capabilities and expertise not found at other NASA centers. I'm pleased NASA has chosen Marshall to spearhead a key component of America's return to the Moon and usher in the Artemis era. Thanks to Administrator Bridenstine for travelling here to share the great news in person."

Bridenstine discussed the announcement in front of the 149-foot-tall Space Launch System (SLS) rocket liquid hydrogen tank structural test article currently being tested.

"We greatly appreciate the support shown here today by our representatives in Congress for NASA's Artemis program and America's return to the Moon, where we will prepare for our greatest feat for humankind – putting astronauts on Mars," Bridenstine said. "We focus on a 'One NASA' integrated approach that uses the technical capabilities of many centers. Marshall has the right combination of expertise and experience to accomplish this critical piece of the mission."

Informed by years of expertise in propulsion systems integration and technology development, engineers at Marshall will work with American companies to rapidly develop, integrate, and demonstrate a human lunar landing system that can launch to the Gateway, pick up astronauts and ferry them between the Gateway and the surface of the Moon.

"Marshall Space Flight Center, and North Alabama, have played a key role in every American human mission to space since the days of Mercury 7. I am proud that Marshall has been selected to be the lead for the landers program," said Aderholt. "I am also very proud that Marshall has designed and built the rocket system, the Space Launch System, which will make missions to the Moon and Mars possible. We look forward to working with our industry partners and our NASA partners from around the country."

NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, which manages major NASA human spaceflight programs including the Gateway, Orion, Commercial Crew and International Space Station, will oversee all aspects related to preparing the landers and astronauts to work together. Johnson also will manage all Artemis missions, beginning with Artemis 1, the first integrated test of NASA's deep space exploration systems.

The trip to Marshall came the day after Bridenstine visited NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans, where he viewed progress on the SLS core stage that will power NASA's Artemis 1 lunar mission. With the start of testing in June on the liquid hydrogen tank article, and the recent arrival of the liquid oxygen tank at Marshall, which manages the SLS Program, NASA is more than halfway through SLS structural testing.

"The Tennessee Valley, including Huntsville and stretching across Middle Tennessee, is a dynamic, exciting region, home to thousands of men and women – working at both public and private institutions – who are leading the United States into the next age of space exploration," said DesJarlais. "As a member of the House Armed Services Committee, I am thrilled to visit one of our country's premier facilities, near Arnold Air Force Base and others, developing the latest spaceflight technology. NASA's Artemis program will help our country to create another American Century. We can be proud of our achievements, especially here at the Marshall Space Flight Center."

NASA recently issued a draft solicitation and requested comments from American companies interested in providing an integrated human landing system – a precursor to the final solicitation targeted for release in the coming months. The agency's human lunar exploration plans are based on a two-phase approach: the first is focused on speed – landing on the Moon within five years, while the second will establish a sustained human presence on and around the Moon by 2028. The agency will use what we learn on the Moon to prepare for the next giant leap – sending astronauts to Mars.

p51
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posted 08-16-2019 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While I'm glad it's going to Marshall, can someone explain how a lander will be ready for the 2024 deadline to go back to the Moon, as nothing even exists on paper yet?

J Blackburn
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posted 08-18-2019 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for J Blackburn   Click Here to Email J Blackburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly!!! Also, has there been a timeline set to test the lander in LEO as the Apollo 9 mission conducted and later in lunar orbit as Apollo 10 conducted. As much as I want to see this program succeed and land humans back on the moon I feel the time line given is out of reach, not impossible but just out of reach for 2024.

Then there is another fear, in 2024 there will be an administration change for sure along with several years of congressional changes. Depending on who will lead the new administration there is the possibility Artemis will be cancelled never reaching the moon or possibly never escaping Earth's gravity. I hope I am wrong!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-18-2019 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by p51:
...nothing even exists on paper yet?
There are several companies that have not only been developing plans for landers but have been testing hardware and engines for several years now. Eight of those companies have already been funded by NASA for studies and multiple prototypes, so work is already underway.

The ascent module is less defined, but there have been proposals, such as Lockheed Martin's Orion-based design, to reuse pressure vessels and components from existing or already tested vehicles to cut down on development time.

That is not to say that 2024 is realistic, but the Artemis lunar lander is not starting from scratch.

Fra Mauro
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posted 08-18-2019 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be a little optimistic, the companies today can, if they wish, use the knowledge gained from Apollo in planning a lander (dust, the firmness of the soil, for example.)

It is true that new presidents have their own plans for NASA and that is a worry. NASA must have wasted billions due to presidents changing the agency's direction. Hopefully a 2024 mission will be sufficiently along so it couldn't be cancelled (imagine if Reagan wanted to cancel the shuttle in 1981).

Go4Launch
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posted 08-18-2019 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Go4Launch   Click Here to Email Go4Launch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Texas congressional delegation is fighting the Marshall decision, pushing for JSC instead.

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