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thump
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posted 09-02-2004 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thump   Click Here to Email thump     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there any reason some of the name tags in the below photo are white, and some are yellow?

John K. Rochester
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posted 09-02-2004 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John K. Rochester   Click Here to Email John K. Rochester     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
White tags signify Mission Specialists... Gold are Pilot-Astronauts, is the only thing I can conclude.

KenDavis
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posted 09-02-2004 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KenDavis   Click Here to Email KenDavis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yamazaki and Furukawa have gold patches and I'm pretty sure they are Mission Specialists. James Dutton has a white patch and I believe he is a pilot.

I've noticed the white/gold difference on other astronaut photos but I can't see any reason. Maybe there are just two colours with no reason for one overe the other?

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It looks like it is not a white border on their name tags but silver piping. Silver will stand for the Air Force since that is the color of their wings and gold is for the Navy. If you look closely Cassidy is wearing a Navy Seal emblem in the middle of his patch, where there is usually wings. Maybe it stands for the branch of service they came from. Just a thought.

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posted 09-02-2004 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sts205cdr   Click Here to Email sts205cdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can order the Mission Specialist wing in white or gold, it doesn't signify anything. In fact, a friend just got one done (without any instructions from him) and it came with a gold wing and border but with white lettering in the name. Personally, I like the all-gold style.

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posted 10-05-2004 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nametags   Click Here to Email nametags     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's pretty much right. Gold for the US Navy and Silver for the US Air Force and US Army.

Some tags emblems have additional colors in the design, or are not military wings or badges such as mission and payload specialist, mainly the non US astronauts have the more colorful tags (obviously that would be primarily the Russians).

I get to make tags for shuttle missions and space station expeditions as a supplier to United Space Alliance. I think it is a pretty cool thing to get to do, even though they are incredibly picky about the detail of the tags. I don't think I made any of the tags in that picture. I know that they have other sources they obtain tags from, and the ones I do are always on royal blue nomex.

As for colors, I have a very specific list of threads to use. I do occasionally mess up and have them sent back, as of yet they have not sent any back after they have been in space flight, but if they do you can imagine that one will go up in the wall.

I also got to do nametags for the 2 newest civilian astronauts which I thought was cool too. There probably aren't too many people with a good image of the new FAA Civilan Astronaut wing!

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posted 10-06-2004 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carrie   Click Here to Email Carrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does your company also make the nametags for Spacetoys.com? I ask because I think theirs are very good replicas of those the NASA astronauts wear, and I've always wondered if they were made by the same company. I ordered a "wings" patch to wear on my flight suit costume... the wings, my name, and border are gold embroidery on blue cloth, and the wings have a little NASA meatball in the middle. They also sell a black tag with just the little meatball, and the person's name below in white.

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posted 10-06-2004 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nametags   Click Here to Email nametags     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The company I work for does not. I do believe the wings on the tags in question are the same as the mission specialist wings with the astronaut shooting star replaced with the NASA logo.

By the way, I am specifically not mentioning the company name so as not to come on here and spam, I'm sure people could figure it out with some research though...

An interesting bit of info, we had done several tags for Ilan Ramon, over a long period of time, partly because I think the mission was postponed, some were payload specialist (wings with a shuttle top view in the center) but most were Israeli Air Force pilot wings. A couple of weeks before their shuttle mission I was called and asked to do an Israeli astronaut wing which previously did not technically exist (basically just a matter of adding the shooting star over the shield center). I made one with silver wings and gold shooting star for contrast and one with silver wings and shooting star with black outline. I'm pretty sure they decided on the one that had the gold center, but I honestly don't really remember. They only had one made, I think he was going to wear it after he returned and was officially an 'astronaut'. I have one physical sewn wing sample stuffed my desk drawer, but it is the all silver one.

I sometimes wonder if it was ever recovered..

There was also a tag done for Soichi Noguchi with a miniaturized version of a patch on it, I guess he'll probably never get to take those up...

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 10-10-2004 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of curiosity, did you make the nametags for astronauts pre-Challenger? I'm wondering if the foreign payload specialists — including the unflown but named British and Indonesian — ever had ones made like your company did for Ramon.

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posted 10-10-2004 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nametags   Click Here to Email nametags     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. We have only been doing them since around 2000 and as mentioned, only through United Space Alliance.

If you are referring to whether or not they made an astronaut version of their wings, I could not say. I can say that I do not believe they are on my list provided by USA, but I do have Canadian astronaut wings on there, and some designs are not wings so they would not have an 'astronaut version'.

By the way, I just did two orders of tags last week, shuttle and space station.

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posted 10-11-2004 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nametags   Click Here to Email nametags     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have looked over the list, and there is an Israel Space Agency crest listed.

Also, the mission specialist style wings with the vector logo in place of the astronaut logo is listed as the AOD Pilot wing (Aircraft Operations Division?).

John Charles
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posted 10-23-2004 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Charles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone (Bert Vis, maybe?) tracked and documented the evolution of NASA astronaut name tags over the decades, from the earliest name-on-leather tags to the embroidered wings of the early Shuttle era, up to the multi-symbol name tags of today's STS crews? This seems like a straight-forward but tedious task involving looking at crew portraits.

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