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Spacefest
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posted 08-12-2014 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buzz Aldrin is coming to Tucson in late September for a private signing with Astronaut Central. Order forms here.

Spacefest
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posted 09-03-2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Less than three weeks. Deadline Sept. 20.

David C
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posted 09-03-2014 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I already have half a dozen Aldrin autographed items and I just can't justify any more at those prices. Thank goodness I got in earlier.

Spacefest
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posted 09-07-2014 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just send us our percentage and we'll be square, David.

David C
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posted 09-08-2014 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the offer but I'm putting that towards framing my Borman and Lovell pictures from your recent signings. How did they go by the way?

Spacefest
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posted 09-08-2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David C:
How did they go by the way?
Both looked good and mentally sharp despite both being 86.

vidoz
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posted 09-09-2014 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vidoz   Click Here to Email vidoz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh, the Apollo 11 crew completion fee is $500 more than last year!

What a shame, no chance for me to complete my two lithos already signed by Armstrong and Collins.

Actually, at those price, not one either.

Spacefest
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posted 09-10-2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Send me scans, and a price for both.

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posted 09-10-2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm fairly certain that Aldrin has charged $1500 to sign anything signed by Armstrong for at least a couple years now. He was at the 2012 ASF show.

David C
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posted 09-10-2014 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spacefest:
Both looked good and mentally sharp despite both being 86.

Good to hear, I hope that they'll both be with us for many years to come.

JasonIUP
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posted 09-11-2014 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonIUP   Click Here to Email JasonIUP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JasonB - he's saying that Aldrin is now $1500 *more* than the base fee, rather than a flat fee of $1500. That means the completion fee is $2100.(!!)

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posted 09-11-2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooohhhhh. Sorry. Right I just noticed that. Okay that's a little on the high side.

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posted 09-11-2014 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even if it was $5000, they would be worth a whole lot more. When Buzz passes (he's 84 now) he'll be out of EVERYONE'S price range.

When they reach the age they're at, every opportunity to talk to them, meet them, shake their hand, or to obtain their overpriced autograph should be considered your last.

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posted 09-11-2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonIUP   Click Here to Email JasonIUP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right. Depending on the item, there may be a point when people wish they would have paid it and made the money back later. Also, if he appears at the next Spacefest, and if it's in 2016, he'll be 86 1/2 years old. Although I don't look forward to dealing with him in person, I value the overall experiences in retrospect.

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posted 09-11-2014 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buzz won't likely be at the next Spacefest. He 'haaates' public autograph appearances and shows. He much prefers private signings. He can make a lot more in less time, and doesn't have to deal with anyone.

Many astronauts are going that way, including Mike Collins and Jim Lovell (the ASF Astronaut Autograph & Memorabilia Show might be your last chance). Nothing I say or do or promise seems to convince them otherwise.

vidoz
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posted 09-16-2014 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vidoz   Click Here to Email vidoz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spacefest:
Send me scans, and a price for both.

Email sent. Thank you.

cycleroadie
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posted 09-17-2014 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spacefest:
He can make a lot more in less time, and doesn't have to deal with anyone.

While I do not mind sending in for a private signing occasionally, that statement right there puts me off completely. Also a big part of getting an autograph is meeting the person, shaking their hand, maybe grabbing a pic with them. Then the autograph is much more, it is a memory to the person who got it. I can understand at their age how that can be bothersome, but to me, it's the experience meeting them that counts more than the autograph.

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posted 09-17-2014 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many of the statements made here put me off... the "when he passes he'll be out of everyone's price range," and the one on their website that "his ex-wife gets half" are in poor taste.

It's not just the outrageous prices (one cannot plan their retirement on re-selling Apollo 11 crew signed photos) but some of the justifications for them used by Novaspace that have me sitting this one out.

JasonIUP
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posted 09-17-2014 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonIUP   Click Here to Email JasonIUP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the NovaSpace comments are a fair summary of Buzz's thoughts based on my dealings with Buzz. As for him being out of everyone's price range, it's true that no one will be able to get him once he's gone. For those who can't afford him or don't want to pay the price, I understand your reason. For those who want to wait until Buzz has a change of attitude, your items will remain unsigned.

mjanovec
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posted 09-17-2014 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spacefest:
He 'haaates' public autograph appearances and shows. He much prefers private signings. He can make a lot more in less time, and doesn't have to deal with anyone.
You heard it here folks... if Buzz returns to Spacefest, don't ask him to sign an autograph. He hates having to deal with you.

Spacefest
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posted 09-20-2014 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's that personal, Mark. It's just CROWDS. Aldrin will return to Spacefest before YOU do.

NovaRob
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posted 09-23-2014 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NovaRob   Click Here to Email NovaRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
UPDATE: We just heard from Buzz that he needs to postpone his signing date by two weeks. We are extending the deadline for receiving orders and items until Thursday, October 2, 2014.

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posted 09-23-2014 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spacefest:
I don't think it's that personal, Mark. It's just CROWDS. Aldrin will return to Spacefest before YOU do.

I was joking...hence the smilie. But the "doesn't have to deal with anyone" comment could easily be misread.

Sometimes it's best not to speak on behalf of the astronauts, lest one conveys an opinion that is either misunderstood or not intended for public consumption.

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posted 09-24-2014 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for schnappsicle   Click Here to Email schnappsicle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David C:
Thank goodness I got in earlier.
Me too. At last count I have 12 Aldrin autographs. I got my first Aldrin at Spacefest 3 and my last one at last year's Spacefest. I'm thrilled with all of them, but I must say the change in Buzz from 2011 to 2014 was quite remarkable.

I obviously can't speak for other attendees, but he went from being very personable and talkative in 2011 to completely ignoring me at the table last May. Even so, I was happy to finally get the last line of the plaque on a photo. Yes, it cost a ton of money, but I think seeing "We came In Peace for All Mankind" on a photo of Buzz saluting the US flag is both funny and ironic.

That's what these signings and shows are for. I can get a plain signature anywhere, and at a much cheaper cost, but I can only get something special at an event. Of course it cost a lot, but to me it was worth it. I get an enormous amount of satisfaction and pleasure every time I look on my wall and see that photo. That's really what an autograph is all about.

JasonIUP
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posted 10-13-2014 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonIUP   Click Here to Email JasonIUP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has Buzz stopped by yet? If so, how did things go? Has he mentioned that a particular (public or private) signing will be his last?

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posted 10-13-2014 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buzz tweeted less than an hour ago that he is at Novaspace Galleries now.

NovaRob
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posted 10-13-2014 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NovaRob   Click Here to Email NovaRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Buzz had his signing today, and it went well. He was sporting a new t-shirt and a new beard, as seen above. Jason, he did not say anything about any particular signing being his last, but as his assistant told you, he is not planning to attend the ASF show this year.

David C
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posted 10-14-2014 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the new look.

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posted 10-14-2014 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HistorianMom   Click Here to Email HistorianMom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JasonIUP:
For those who want to wait until Buzz has a change of attitude, your items will remain unsigned.
My item remained unsigned. I'm certainly not waiting for Buzz to have a change of attitude; I know that's not going to happen. Each time I have had a chance to have him sign something, I've found I just can't justify the price.

I don't hold it against Buzz for charging whatever it is he wants to charge; I don't have the attitude that I am somehow "entitled" to have Buzz sign my items. When it all is said and done, I'm not willing to pay the price he asks. That's how the free market works.

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