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Spacefest
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posted 07-12-2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frank Borman will be in Tucson in late August for a private signing with Astronaut Central. Order forms here.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 07-13-2014 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great news!

Lightyear69
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posted 07-15-2014 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightyear69   Click Here to Email Lightyear69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure about the inscription for "Earthrise" 16x20 with autographs from Jim Lovell and Frank Borman:

Is "And from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, a Merry Christmas, and God bless all of you - all of you on the good Earth."

...too much for the picture and which color for the pen? Other examples? Thanks and cheers.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 07-16-2014 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are a few of mine. Two are 16x20 and one litho. Obviously you are limited by the 10 word max for Col Borman but you might be able to paraphrase something. Fine gold always looks good and Rob and the team always take great care with this "difficult" pen.

Lightyear69
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posted 07-16-2014 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightyear69   Click Here to Email Lightyear69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great pictures.

Okay, now I am because of text length not worry more. The 10 word length that is definitely? There are no exceptions? Should I try it?

David C
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posted 07-16-2014 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure that Spacefest will correct me but I'd say don't try it. I have a similar problem and am seriously considering paying two autograph fees whilst only getting one signature to double the inscription length available. Alternatively, if you email them you may be able to negotiate a one-off price.

Spacefest
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posted 07-16-2014 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trouble is, Col. Borman almost always makes a spelling or omission error when writing a long inscription. We can usually fix it, if it's a photo, but if someone else has signed it (as above), it's ruined. Borman always tells us he wished he'd been more brief.

You may have to use our photo, which we can replace.

Rob and Sally were discussing this today, but I don't know if anything was decided, other than it will cost plenty. Borman says he likes to inscribe, but WE live in the real world, with deadlines.

Greggy_D
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posted 07-16-2014 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greggy_D   Click Here to Email Greggy_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kim, it would be good to know if longer inscriptions are an option (using your photos), especially for these Apollo 8 crewmen. It can be difficult to express the magnitude of this flight with 10 words or less.

David C
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posted 07-17-2014 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spacefest:
Trouble is, Col. Borman almost always makes a spelling or omission error when writing a long inscription.
Actually, I have a couple of astronaut inscribed pictures with spelling errors (not Col. Borman) and I view them as more individual. Is that weird?

capoetc
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posted 07-17-2014 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capoetc   Click Here to Email capoetc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David C:
Is that weird?
Yes. Yes it is.

But it's okay -- we understand.

NovaRob
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posted 07-17-2014 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NovaRob   Click Here to Email NovaRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, we spoke with Col. Borman today, and he is willing to do longer inscriptions, but with some limitations. We updated the first page of the rules and fees on our website, so you can see details there.

In brief, 15 word limit on customer-supplied items, and 35 word limit on unsigned photos supplied by us.

Borman and Lovell are NOT signing on the same day, so if you are having both sign something, and the second one makes a mistake, we will not be able to simply replace the photo, because the first one will not be here to resign it.

If you already sent a Borman order to us and want to change it, please email me.

I'll explain more, shortly.

NovaRob
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posted 07-17-2014 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NovaRob   Click Here to Email NovaRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To expand on what Spacefest wrote earlier, if an astronaut makes an error on our unsigned photo, we can replace it, or try to erase the error. But, if it's on your item, or something already signed by others, we can not replace it, and may not be able to erase without damage. Also, each astronaut is in our office for only a limited time, and we need to get several hundred items signed within that time. Redoing long inscriptions because of mistakes quickly eats up time, and the astronauts often cannot stay late or come back the next day to finish up. We imposed the word limits to reduce these risks.

Actually, Borman did not say he likes to inscribe, but he will do it. In fact, at a signing several years ago, after writing his umpteenth 30-word sign-off quote, while trying to shake out his cramped and sore signing hand, he quipped "I wish I'd just said 'Good night'."

Spacefest
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posted 07-17-2014 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So there you have it. Any questions? Here is a short candid video we made of his first visit, in 2005. Rob is the other guy.

Lightyear69
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posted 07-18-2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightyear69   Click Here to Email Lightyear69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is possible that Frank Borman first sign (with inscription) the picture (from you) and then Jim Lovell?

NovaRob
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posted 07-18-2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NovaRob   Click Here to Email NovaRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both men have very busy schedules (despite being "retired"), and we must work around their time commitments. Their current schedules have worked out so that Lovell will come first. It's possible, like last year, that their schedules will change for reasons beyond our control.

Keep in mind that Lovell can also make mistakes, so having Borman come first does not completely eliminate the risk.

I don't want to sound negative in my posts, but we just want our customers to be aware of the risks, and happy with the results.

Spacefest
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posted 07-23-2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well NOW they're switching, and BORMAN's coming first, Lovell after.

Lightyear69
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posted 07-24-2014 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightyear69   Click Here to Email Lightyear69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great, superb and excellent job!

Spacefest
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posted 07-25-2014 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stay tuned.

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