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David Bryant
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posted 09-22-2008 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mmmmm...

To be positive: Vance Brand and Jerry Carr look like good deals! (Especially if you collect 'Cap Coms')

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posted 09-22-2008 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Paul23:
Just noticed on the pre ordered photos section of the Autographica website some prices have been put up:
Vance Brand Autograph - £30
Jerry Carr Autograph - £20

Now revised upwards by £10 each in the last few weeks. Damn - should have pre-ordered

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posted 09-22-2008 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for uk spacefan   Click Here to Email uk spacefan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by machbusterman:
"Houston, We Have a Problem" (which is incorrect BTW, it should be "Houston, We've Had a Problem") along with Apollo 13 CDR was £95. 95 quid for an incorrect inscription is a bit steep Mr. Lovell if you're reading this!

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posted 09-22-2008 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul23   Click Here to Email Paul23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose these prices are for pre orders so there's always a chance the show prices may be a bit less. I was planning to get two Jim Lovell pictures signed but I'm starting to wonder about just getting one now.

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posted 09-22-2008 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for machbusterman   Click Here to Email machbusterman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by uk spacefan:
95 quid for an incorrect inscription is a bit steep Mr. Lovell if you're reading this!
There were LOADS of those getting signed... I suspect there were many who didn't know the line from the movie was incorrect.

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posted 09-22-2008 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look on the bright side, there's ONE more letter in the correct quote, which would've cost you another fiver.

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posted 09-23-2008 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for machbusterman   Click Here to Email machbusterman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

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posted 09-24-2008 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paulushumungus   Click Here to Email paulushumungus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The astro's are starting to take the "Constellation Ur-ion"

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posted 09-24-2008 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by paulushumungus:
The astro's are starting to take the "Constellation Ur-ion"

I know that phrase! Quote from Wally Schirra, isn't it?

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posted 09-25-2008 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paulushumungus   Click Here to Email paulushumungus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Possibly David, but I got it from the movie Apollo 13.

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posted 09-25-2008 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I think most Astros have said it at one time or another! It's a reference to Glenn's 'Fire flies' I believe. If he ever visits the UK, we can ask him! (Now wouldn't THAT be a blast!)

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posted 09-25-2008 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gradually veering of the show topic I know, but I thought the Urion reference was due to the spray of urine coming from the spacecraft after a urine dump, rather than Glenn's fireflies.

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posted 09-25-2008 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True! But I believe the phenomenon of Glenn's fireflies was later explained after a urine dump by Wally Schirra produced the same effect. His 'Constellation Ur-ion' was picked up and used extensively by other Astros / crews. But I could be wrong. Good luck, Mr Gorsky!

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posted 09-25-2008 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by David Bryant:
But I believe the phenomenon of Glenn's fireflies was later explained after a urine dump by Wally Schirra produced the same effect. His 'Constellation Ur-ion' was picked up and used extensively by other Astros / crews. But I could be wrong.

It was a different effect, I understand. Glenn (and Carpenter) fireflies were frost clinging to the spacecraft outer hull, not urine dumps (according to Schirra, the constellation pun was his, using a photo he took of the effect). Although both involve ice particles from the spacecraft, two completely different stories getting mixed up here.

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posted 09-25-2008 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stand corrected! This discussion shows how desperate we all are over here for some new postings on this thread (particularly in regard to new astronaut guests!)

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posted 09-28-2008 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paulushumungus   Click Here to Email paulushumungus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why has Jim Lovell's signing fee risen by around £20 since the last Autographica to what would approximate a fee in the US of $170-$180 but the ASF rate in November stays the same at $150?

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posted 09-28-2008 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul23   Click Here to Email Paul23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could always ask him!

I guess the fact is for him to come over to the UK is a bigger upheaval, if that's the right word, than it is for him to travel somewhere else in the same country. From that point of view I guess he has to make it worth his own while.

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posted 09-28-2008 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being a really sad person I've discovered a VERY tenuous Apollo 13 connection to one of the other Autographica guests.

Any guesses who and why, anyone?

Steve

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posted 09-28-2008 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jim Lovell likes bananas too........!

Regards,

Rick

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posted 09-29-2008 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steve Procter:
Any guesses who and why, anyone?
Apart from Vance Brand being one of the Apollo 13 Capcoms?

Is that not tenuous enough? LOL!

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posted 09-29-2008 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nowhere near tenuous enough!!

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posted 09-29-2008 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for uk spacefan   Click Here to Email uk spacefan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steve Procter:
Any guesses who and why, anyone?
Don't tell me Jim Lovell is a West Ham supporter like Alf Garnett aka Warren Mitchell!!

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posted 09-29-2008 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would it be that Jack Swigert of Apollo 13 was the original choice as ASTP CMP, but was replaced by Vance Brand, who is appearing at Autographica 12?

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posted 09-29-2008 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not tenuous enough......!

A clue - it's not one of the space guests.

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posted 09-29-2008 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know it, I know it!

Did Jim Lovell once get smacked around the head with a frying pan during an argument with Marilyn, just like Andrew Sachs as Manuel got from John Cleese's Basil Fawlty ? ;-)

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I think I may have it...

Is it that actors Gary Lockwood and Keir Dullea plus Heather Downham and not forgetting the 2 apes appearing at Autographica, all starred in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey, and on the Apollo 13 flight, Jim Lovell's tape played the theme music to the film?

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posted 09-29-2008 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice try Pat, but not the guest I was looking for.

Adam - the frying pan??? I wish that WAS the correct answer!

Another clue - what US TV show was on air when the Apollo 13 story broke?

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posted 09-29-2008 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was it Star Trek? I know Gary Lockwood was in one of them?

Adam

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posted 09-29-2008 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wasn't it "Batman"?

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posted 09-30-2008 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's going on here? Are we trying to 'big up' one of the minor guests by establishing a nebulous link with a genuine space mission? Oh dear! LOL!

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posted 09-30-2008 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mmmoo   Click Here to Email mmmoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steve Procter:
Another clue - what US TV show was on air when the Apollo 13 story broke?
Wasn't it 'I Love Lucy'?

Mike Constantine
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posted 09-30-2008 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And, of course, Keir Dullea was in an episode of 'I Love Lucy' in 1960.

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posted 09-30-2008 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The programme airing on ABC at the time. As per Jim Lovell's 'Lost Moon/Apollo 13' book and in the film.

Steve

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posted 09-30-2008 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wasn't it the Dick Cavett Show?

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posted 09-30-2008 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wasn't it the Dick Cavett Show?

Indeed. According to Lost Moon, Cavett was going to interview Susannah York that night...

She may be unaware that she is named in Lovell's book - certainly worth asking her...

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I find it was Apollo 12 that interrupted 'I Love Lucy'! And yes: the real answer is extraordinarilly tenuous! LOL!

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posted 09-30-2008 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correct Francis - you are spot on with Susannah York!

David - spot on with your assertion that it was a VERY tenuous link!!

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Originally posted by Steve Procter:
spot on with your assertion that it was a VERY tenuous link!!
She made it into his autobiography, which in a small way makes her part of the story... it might actually be interesting to hear her recollections of that evening.

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posted 10-03-2008 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Given that A12 is a much more 'low key' event than the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation's Show, it's still interesting to note that no-one seems to be suggesting meet-ups over the weekend. We Astro-freaks are very much in the minority at these events in the UK, yet (unless I'm being 'included out!') there doesn't seem to be the camaraderie that seems evident over the pond. Can't we all get together for a drink and a chat Friday night (after the drinks reception!)?

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posted 10-03-2008 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paul prendergast   Click Here to Email paul prendergast     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by David Bryant:
Can't we all get together for a drink and a chat Friday night (after the drinks reception!)?
David at every show so far we have met up there is usually about 6-8 people at the show, myself, Brammers, Derek, Ric, Dave, Ivan, John and others. I am at the show drop me a line nearer the show and will gladly meet you there. Paul


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