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paulushumungus
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posted 09-05-2008 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paulushumungus   Click Here to Email paulushumungus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "illness thread" does not explain his last cancellation. He turned up at NASM on the day he was planned to be at Autographica and by all accounts he was largely ignored / over looked. Oh well, lets embrace those guests that keep to their word and make the effort.

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posted 09-12-2008 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul23   Click Here to Email Paul23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like we have another ape confirmed to attend this show!

contra
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posted 09-12-2008 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for contra   Click Here to Email contra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Due to unforeseen circumstances at my university I will (unfortunately) not be able to make it to this years show. I was really looking forward to it but there is no way I will make it.

Would someone be willing to help me and obtain just one autograph for me at the show? I hope someone can help me. PLEASE contact me off list.

Regards, Stefan

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posted 09-12-2008 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for machbusterman   Click Here to Email machbusterman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Paul23:
Looks like we have another ape confirmed to attend this show!

How EXCITING!!

David Bryant
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posted 09-12-2008 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! Think they'll wear their costumes for the dinner???

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posted 09-12-2008 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poofacio   Click Here to Email poofacio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and eat Ham sandwiches?

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posted 09-13-2008 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dwight   Click Here to Email Dwight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I can say is that recently I have been getting my dinner table allocation with actors rather than astronauts for a variety of reasons namely:

No overdose of competitive testosterone. I can eat my dinner and chat without having to prove my maleness!

I don't have to jostle through 10 other people just to be able to ask the astronaut a question at my table!

I learn someone new, and more often than not wind up having a contact number and email. Try getting that from an astronaut!

I dont go home disappointed because I dont have my idealised hero shown to be a human who has absolutely nothing in common with me!

I dont wind up bidding 60000 pounds on an item which I wouldn't bid on when sober, and which I could get for 1/4 of the price through an online shop because I don't have my sanity dazzled by one of my childhood heroes in front of me!

Bring on the apes actors, I say, they'll no doubt have alot more to tell than their 5 month stint in 1968 on a film!!! See you all at the actors' tables!!!

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posted 09-13-2008 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bring on the REAL PG-Tips chimps. Avez-vous cuppa?

David Bryant
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posted 09-13-2008 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last two shows Linda & I had dinner with a bevy of Bond Girls and the delightful Sally Thomsett. All of them were just wonderful table companions: warm, friendly and they even bought some meteorites / jewellery from us on Sunday!

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posted 09-13-2008 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paul prendergast   Click Here to Email paul prendergast     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
Bring on the REAL PG-Tips chimps. Avez-vous cuppa?
Here dad do you the pianos on my foot. You hum it son I play it.

We must have some more guests why not try the Banana Splits they should fit in nice and they should be cheap.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 09-14-2008 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by paul prendergast:
We must have some more guests why not try the Banana Splits they should fit in nice and they should be cheap.

DON'T TEMPT FATE...

Steve Procter
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posted 09-14-2008 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't knock it.....

I understand the Banana Splits are making a comeback

contra
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posted 09-14-2008 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for contra   Click Here to Email contra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, just a short notice that I´m no longer looking for help.

Paul will be kind enough to help me. Thank you again Paul.

Stefan

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posted 09-14-2008 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 747flyer   Click Here to Email 747flyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
Bring on the REAL PG-Tips chimps. Avez-vous cuppa?

I thought it was "Avez-vous UNE cuppa", but then it was a long time ago :-)

Can you ride tandem?

gliderpilotuk
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posted 09-14-2008 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Un" cuppa actually.

"Coo-ee, Mr. shifter"

Nostalgia ain't wot it used to be.
Roll-on Chimpfest.

Paul

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posted 09-15-2008 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stop this immediately! It's getting very, very....

Sorry. Deja vu all over again.

David Bryant
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posted 09-16-2008 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what's the word, Dave & Jason?

Any more Astros in the pipeline? Has a replacement been found for Ed?

lm5eagle
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posted 09-16-2008 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lm5eagle   Click Here to Email lm5eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to hear that Kenny Baker is on the mend and that he feels well enough to attend the whole weekend.

David Bryant
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posted 09-17-2008 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah! Half a replacement, then! LOL!

David Bryant
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posted 09-19-2008 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just been re-reading Andrew Smith's excellent book 'Moondust' and noticed his dismissive comments about Autographica. Does anyone agree with him that Bond girls and Page 3 models don't belong with astronauts? Obviously the format has changed since Northampton (particularly at the Radisson, which has its own 'Space Room') but I'd be interested in people's opinions!

Paul23
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posted 09-19-2008 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul23   Click Here to Email Paul23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me I don't think Autographica has ever promoted itself as a pure astronaut event, although its probably the most astro heavy show in the UK.

I think if the ASF show suddenly started throwing in Bond girls and what have you then it would seem out of place, after all they are pretty much certain to have a good astro line up so don't need anything else to pull the punters in.

The thing is if you took all the Bond girls and other film people out of the equation at Autographica you'd be left with a fairly thin guest line up just by virtue of the fact that it seems harder to get a high volumne of astronauts to come to the UK than it would be for a show in the US. Ultimately that would probably mean the event wouldn't be financially viable. While a lot of the Bond girls dont necessairily attract the big crowds, they often seem to do a steady enough trade.

Have to admit I've never really seen the point of the page 3 girls at the event, decorative as they may be they do seem a bit out of place. I don't have any moral objection to them being there, just don't really see the point! It does seem that this side of things is being phased out though.

paulushumungus
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posted 09-19-2008 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paulushumungus   Click Here to Email paulushumungus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul 23 says it all. In the UK we will never have the pulling power to organise a pure Astro show so Autographica is it, and they do a bloody good job. It may take Autographica a number of shows to cover the same ground that one US show covers but over a few years we pretty much get the same bigtime guests but less regularly. It just means that we have to make every show count more.

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posted 09-19-2008 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lm5eagle   Click Here to Email lm5eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have had one advantage over the U.S. Shows in that we have had the wonderful help of Rex Hall in bringing some brilliant cosmonaut guests to Autographica. I hope we never lose this contribution.

Andy

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posted 09-19-2008 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul23   Click Here to Email Paul23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately we have the disadvantage of Mr Gordon Browns Government stopping them from entering the country!

Yes indeed ladies and gentlemen, little bit of politics there.

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posted 09-19-2008 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonIUP   Click Here to Email JasonIUP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could use some help at Autographica, and I'm sure others do, too.

Perhaps those offering help would list who they would be willing to get.

So, to start out, who can help me get Dave Scott? Mail me privately if you'll help. Of course, a "thank you" will be in order.

JasonIUP

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posted 09-19-2008 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Paul23:
Unfortunately we have the disadvantage of Mr Gordon Browns Government stopping them from entering the country!
...except for Sergei Krikalev who will be in Glasgow next month.

David Bryant
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posted 09-20-2008 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Couple of responses: Paulushumungous is totally correct: Dave, Jason (and, until recently, Gary) have always done an incredible job. To bring legends like Carpenter, Lovell, Haise, Cernan and the rest to the UK (particularly as these wonderful people grow older) is an astonishing feat! Well done, guys, and many thanks!

And what's wrong with a bit of politics? There is NO logical reason to deny visas to our Cosmonaut heroes. They'd've been OK if they'd entered the UK in the back of a sixteen-wheeler!

Don't know about y'all, but I'm already getting excited about Auto11! Can't wait!

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posted 09-20-2008 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OLDIE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure it's nice having dinner and being photographed with astronauts and cosmonauts (as I have). However, it's also pretty cool to have dinner, and be photographed with a Penthouse Pet and a former Playmate of the Year. How often does that sort of opportunity come along!

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posted 09-20-2008 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lm5eagle   Click Here to Email lm5eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David,

Your comments about the 'sixteen wheel trailer' are perfect and hit the nail right on the head. This is the kind of mentality displayed by U.K. politicians and legislators. There are similarities of attitude to the disgusting decision to make older Gurkha soldiers apply for U.K. residence after a lifetime of service in the British Army.

Andy

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posted 09-20-2008 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jut2y   Click Here to Email jut2y     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JasonIUP:
So, to start out, who can help me get Dave Scott?
Hi Jason, I could help you if your stuck, email me and we can sort it out.

Regards Paul.

David Bryant
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posted 09-20-2008 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by OLDIE:
It's pretty cool to have dinner, and be photographed with a Penthouse Pet and a former Playmate of the Year. How often does that sort of opportunity come along!
Well, you know.... all the time for Paulus, Spriggy & Space Dave! LOL! Click here!

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posted 09-21-2008 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jut2y   Click Here to Email jut2y     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone remember what Jim Lovell was charging for crew completions on his last visit?

I seem to have a figure of £150 in my mind I'm getting a couple of items signed for some overseas Cs members and just need to let them know his fees were higher for a completion.

Paul.

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posted 09-21-2008 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep £150. If that was based on $300 at 2:1 you'd be looking at £83.

Usually it's a bit like airline fuel surcharges: oil up/surcharge up; oil down/surcharge stays in place! In this case I can't see it rising above £150/$300 as business will be slow at that level.

Paul

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posted 09-21-2008 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't Lovell also have a special fee if you wanted the "Problem" inscription? Anyone remember how much it was?

Adam

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posted 09-21-2008 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for contra   Click Here to Email contra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Didn't Lovell also have a special fee if you wanted the "Problem" inscription?
I think to remember it was £10. But I´m not 100% sure about that.

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posted 09-21-2008 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for uk spacefan   Click Here to Email uk spacefan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot make the show this year, but would love to have the 'Problem' inscription on the A13 photo with the service module damage. Any guesses how much this would set me back approx? I was also wondering if I could pre-order this via Showmasters.

Pat

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posted 09-21-2008 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for machbusterman   Click Here to Email machbusterman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Any guesses how much this would set me back approx?
Last year Lovell's signature and "Houston, We Have a Problem" (which is incorrect BTW, it should be "Houston, We've Had a Problem") along with Apollo 13 CDR was £95.

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posted 09-21-2008 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul23   Click Here to Email Paul23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This price list has just been posted on the Autographica forum (I've just added the space and related guests, though the have all the film and TV people listed as well):
  • Dave Scott £95
  • Jim Lovell £90
  • Vance Brand £40
  • Jerry Carr £30
  • Gary Lockwood £20
  • Keir Dullea £20
  • Double Signed 2001 Dullea Lockwood £40
  • Patrick Moore £30
In Dave's own words "The astronauts are as near as i can figure the correct price." This are listed as pre order prices though so the show price might be different.

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posted 09-21-2008 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys, I guess I'd better start saving if I'm gonna get anything.

Adam

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posted 09-22-2008 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice discount on the Dullea/Lockwood joint sigs! Weren't these guys $20 in Burbank?

As for the astros....I've just cut my signing list in half.

Paul


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