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Topic: Buzz Aldrin at Autographica ?
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ApolloAlex
Member Posts: 390
From: Yeovil, England
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 10-25-2005 04:46 AM
   
Hi all,
Looking at the autographica website i found the link for the Chat Forum and on there is a question asking if anybody would be prepared to pay £90 for Dr. Aldrins autograph,so maybe taking this for what it is,i would imagine that this could be possibly around the price we may be looking at,so could someone be able to confirm this and just for fun i would love to know how many people would be happy to hand over this much cash,dont get me wrong,i would love to head the queue,but also as well what do you get for £90,i mean does he dedicate or does he charge extra for adding your name and best wishes ?????
Cheers,
Alex. ------------------
"Why dont you fix your little problem and light this Candle?" [This message has been edited by ApolloAlex (edited October 25, 2005).] |
Steve Procter
Member Posts: 1031
From: Leeds, Yorkshire, UK
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-25-2005 05:27 AM
Alex,I've been visiting the same place to see how the pricing structure would be received by what I would call 'non-space' people. There are a few who are prepared (and can stretch to) what is a hefty fee on the grounds that this is for them a once in a lifetime opportunity to meet a genuine history maker. Most however seem to be either not interested in space at all or have only a passing interest. The comments seem to be that yes, I might like to get a Buzz signed item but not at 2,3 or 4 times the cost of the average guest signing fee. This bears out what I think Paul Bramley and myself were saying many months ago about the attendee profile. Whilst some space enthusiasts are prepared on occasions to fork out larger amounts, this isn't representative of what the general visitors to an autograph show would do,want to do, or afford. Plus, with all due respect (and I am generalising here) I suspect quite a few of us are a little older than some of the 'general' attendees and may possibly have more disposable income to lavish on their interest (feed their addiction!) Comments on the site seem to indicate a pretty tight budget for many with a number certainly getting by on student income etc. It will be interesting to see come next weekend how this plays out. Cheers Steve |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 10-25-2005 05:40 AM
[Corrected after reading Mike's post below]
£90 works out at $159 at today's exchange rate. £85 would actually equate to $150, which would be in line with his UACC show fee.[This message has been edited by spaced out (edited October 25, 2005).] |
mdmyer
Member Posts: 900
From: Humboldt KS USA
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 10-25-2005 06:26 AM
I still have a copy of Buzz's "Fee Schedule and order form" from the 2005 show. The prices listed are signature 150$, mission inscription add 15$, personalization add 15$, "Magnificent Desolation" add 25$, added to Armstrong signed piece 300$, Apollo 11 crew completion 500$, 3-D items ( models, planes, globes, ) 225$, the 6" x 8" collectspace montage 95$, books written by Buzz 85$.Hope this helps. Mike Myer
Humboldt KS [This message has been edited by mdmyer (edited October 25, 2005).] |
Frederic Janik
Member Posts: 320
From: Helsinki, Finland
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 10-25-2005 02:10 PM
Didn't I read anywhere that if you would buy a signed photo from him Buzz would sign a book he has written for free?Frederic |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 10-25-2005 02:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Frederic Janik:
Didn't I read anywhere that if you would buy a signed photo from him Buzz would sign a book he has written for free?
That offer only applies to his new children's book "Reaching for the Moon". Every effort has been made to offer a low fee, in comparison with what is charged for Aldrin's signature elsewhere. However, until the show actually begins and his fees are published, I think it is premature to debate their validity. There was at least one error in the list of prices cited from the recent UACC show, so I would caution using that as a guide to what may or may not be charged at Autographica. We will be accepting credit cards and will also have a selection of other Countdown Creations/buySPACE merchandise available (including the introduction of a brand new, flown-in-space product). I look forward to seeing everyone this weekend!
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Steve Procter
Member Posts: 1031
From: Leeds, Yorkshire, UK
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-25-2005 04:26 PM
Robert,Look forward to seeing you also. I reckon I probably owe you a beer (or two)for all the hard work you put in  Steve |
november25
Member Posts: 646
From: Douglas, Isle of Man, UK
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 10-25-2005 06:26 PM
Hi Robert,
Its good to hear that Buzz and your goodself are accepting Credit\debit cards.
This is so much better,as some of us have come from other countries, cannot find English money, this is a very welcome gesture. Also your merchandise you will be bringing with you.
You and Buzz have a safe journey to London.
Good to meet up-missed you at the STS114 launch.
Best regards
from Brenda. |
Dwight
Member Posts: 576
From: Germany
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 10-26-2005 02:25 AM
I look forward to seeing everyone there as well! It will be nice to put faces with names a second time 'round. BTW I did an online booking for the lectures, but never received any confirmation. Is this was what is supposed to happen?At any rate, I'll see you all there. Ah yes...I will catch the IMAX screening of Magnificent Desolation at Waterloo early Friday arvo, anyone want to meet up and do the same? Cheers, Dwight |
november25
Member Posts: 646
From: Douglas, Isle of Man, UK
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 10-26-2005 09:31 AM
Dwight,
I tried to book the lectures on line via the AIF Site. But didnt work-so ended up phoning Dave Shayler he is looking after the bookings. if not Garry could help.
Looking forward to seeing you again,hubby and myself are off to Florida next month,will see Mag. Des at KSC- as we have booked the ATX again, so much fun-a birthday
present.
have a safe trip,see you soon.
regards from Brenda |
Paul Littler
Member Posts: 70
From: Brentwood, Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 10-26-2005 01:14 PM
I know market forces operate in every commercial activity and Buzz can charge the going rate and everyone has a choice to take advantage or decline but what on earth is the secrecy about the fees about?
All it does is create uncertainty from which everyone suffers.
People need to buy books and photographs to be signed and they want something special which probably will not be available on the day.
So who suffers? The dealers because we ain't buying. If we knew what the fees were we could budget, estimate, decide what we want. We don't know and I know at least 2 people one of them my own brother who will not be going due to the uncertainty over the prices.
Paul Littler
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eilisk
Member Posts: 100
From: London
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 10-27-2005 08:44 AM
Robert save a got space? t-shirt for me!Looking forwards to seeing you all on Friday night/Saturday. I'll be wearing my STS-114 grey polo shirt (-: All the best
Eilis [This message has been edited by eilisk (edited October 27, 2005).] |
gliderpilotuk
Member Posts: 3398
From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 10-27-2005 05:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Littler:
what on earth is the secrecy about the fees about?All it does is create uncertainty...If we knew what the fees were we could budget, estimate, decide what we want. We don't know and I know at least 2 people one of them my own brother who will not be going due to the uncertainty over the prices.Paul Littler
Well said, Paul.
The expectation that people will travel hundreds, if not thousands of miles to any of these shows on the basis that "prices will be available at the door" is laughable. It's a major consideration for whether I go to San Antonio next year, let alone travel the 15 miles to Heathrow! I'm struggling to conceive of any other situation where you would make a commitment to attend an event, only to know the full cost when you get there! Paul |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 10-27-2005 05:24 PM
I cannot comment for all the celebrity signers, but some of them have obligations (formal or otherwise, i.e. out of a sense of loyality) to other dealers/organizations that they will not advertise fees lower than what they charge elsewhere. So their choice becomes: don't publicize their fees and be able to charge less at the show or do advertise and just stick to the higher rates. This is not without precedence, at least not in the U.S; there are stores that cannot or do not advertise what brands they stock or the exact prices in return for being able to sell the brands at discount prices. [This message has been edited by Robert Pearlman (edited October 27, 2005).] |
MCroft04
Member Posts: 1634
From: Smithfield, Me, USA
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 10-27-2005 05:31 PM
If the price is really an issue, why not develop low-mid-high price cases based on previous shows. Then you can tell how the worst (and best) case scenarios fit your budget. I do this all the time in my business. |
machbusterman
Member Posts: 1778
From: Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Registered: May 2004
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posted 10-27-2005 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
Well said, Paul.
The expectation that people will travel hundreds, if not thousands of miles to any of these shows on the basis that "prices will be available at the door" is laughable. It's a major consideration for whether I go to San Antonio next year, let alone travel the 15 miles to Heathrow! I'm struggling to conceive of any other situation where you would make a commitment to attend an event, only to know the full cost when you get there!Paul
It was for this exact reason that I didn't attend the show in Burbank last year. Flights and accomodation take up a reasonable chunk of any budget for an international visitor such as myself and because I don't work at the Royal Mint I have to know how much I'd need to bring to do justice at such a show. We've all been guessing for months how much Buzz's fee will be and its actually spawned a poll on the showmasters forum as to how many will pay the guestimated base fee of £90. Based on the guestimation there seems to be a number of people who will NOT attend and also there are more who will attend who won't be bothering with Buzz's autograph. I'm picking up an autograph for a friend and am having one item signed for myself.... would like two but can't afford it  .
- Derek
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rjb1elec
Member Posts: 212
From: Merseyside, England
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 10-28-2005 07:29 AM
Hi Derek
I am in the same position myself,just wish we knew before hand,so i can budget/plan as to who signs what.
Does anybody know if buzz will be autographing any of his books cheaper than his standard price.?
ThanksRegards richard |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 10-28-2005 07:45 AM
Yes, there is a lower rate for books he has authored. |
Paul Littler
Member Posts: 70
From: Brentwood, Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 10-28-2005 06:13 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:.....but some of them have obligations (formal or otherwise, i.e. out of a sense of loyality) to other dealers/organizations that they will not advertise fees lower than what they charge elsewhere. So their choice becomes: don't publicize their fees and be able to charge less at the show or do advertise and just stick to the higher rates. I take that point about loyalty and contracts to others but as I write this at 11.30 BST people who have been to the Friday evening Autogrphica will know the fees charged and how this loyalty to others holds up will be open to scrutiny. My point being whatever Buzz charges (£90.00?) will be out into our little collecting community and everyone will know. How others with contracts and agreements with Buzz respond is between them and Buzz. I guess we should be grateful that the fee seems to be lower than one would pay every where else but everyone knows NOW why not BEFORE NOW? If others will not be happy at this lower fee being advertised (which is the reason given for not announcing the fees until the show opens??) does it really matter as to the timing of the announcement? If others are going to be upset, then they will get upset. I would not see a statement on this board saying the fee will be £90-£100 as advertising as if it had appeared in the publicity put out by Autographica but I would appreciate the "heads up" as to whether or not I take one/two or nothing to be signed. The situation when the fee is not known till one arrives does cause frustration for several reasons and is a no win no win position. Buy books and photographs, take them and realise "I cannot afford this" and be soooo dissapointed. Or don't buy the photos and books but realise too late at the show that the fee is so much lower than expected and be bitter you had not bought the books and photographs. Bottom line is I am very, very grateful to Buzz, Robert, Gary and others at Autogrphica for the appearance in London and I appreciate contracts exist and are to be honoured but come on guys...the timing? I hope Buzz will sign "FULL MOON" for me and I hope I get to shake both Buzz' and Robert's hands.......I'm a bit worried about fees for multi-signed items and God help us that is another can of worms. Just let's all enjoy the experience. Regards to all. Paul Littler |
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