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Author Topic:   [Lunar Legacies] Space memorabilia (March 2018)
Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-14-2018 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Lunar Legacies:
The 25th Lunar Legacies Space Memorabilia Auction will be held on Saturday, March 3, 2018 and many of the items in the auction are previewed here, but cannot be bid on or bought at this time.

Instructions and links coming soon once the auction is uploaded to invaluable.com.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-19-2018 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Lunar Legacies:
The uploading of the Lunar Legacies 25 auction to Invaluable and Auction Zip has been completed, and it is ready for viewing and pre-bidding for the live auction on Saturday, March 3, 2018 at 9 a.m. Pacific Time.

Many descriptions are left to write, but all should be completed by Feb. 25. The photos and bidding numbers are correct and you may pre-bid now if you so choose once you are registered.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-02-2018 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Lunar Legacies:
Some additional auction information and some quick notes on the bidding process Saturday morning, to eliminate any bidder surprises.

But first of all, some late and great additions to the auction:

  • 116C - Mercury MR-1 Test Conductor’s Report
  • 188A - Apollo 1 Crew-Signed Photo Framed With Grissom and White Velcro Badges
  • 174A - Apollo Spacecraft News Reference Manual
  • 174B - Command Module Instrument
  • 251A - Apollo 11 Flown Space Treaty With Collins COA
  • 262B - Jim Lovell’s Flown Apollo 13 Beta Cloth Patch
  • 304A - Apollo 15 Flight Plan, Final
  • 304B - Scott’s Apollo 15 Flown to Lunar Surface Crew-Signed Cover
  • 474C - Joe Engle Signed ALT Enterprise FF-2 Integrated Flight Checklist
The auction will start, in real-time one lot at a time, at promptly 9:00 a.m. Pacific time on this Saturday morning, March 3, 2018 at Invaluable and AuctionZip.

Invoices will go out to all winning bidders no later than two days after the auction.

denali414
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posted 03-03-2018 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some nice bargains early in the Lunar Legacies auction — even if do not win any more, very happy.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-03-2018 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'm a happy camper. I won the three lots I set out to win, including John Fabian's jelly beans from the STS-7 crew's lunch with President Reagan at the White House. The jar is a link to how jelly beans first flew into space, as Bob Crippen said during the mission:
The crew of flight seven had an opportunity to visit the President, who supplied us with one of his favorite candies — some jelly beans straight from the White House we've been enjoying up here.

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posted 03-03-2018 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1202 Alarm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by denali414:
Some nice bargains early in the Lunar Legacies auction — even if do not win any more, very happy.
Indeed! Just bought a STS-7 flown 100 pages Systems Data Malfunction checklist signed by John Fabian, for $2400 (incl. premium). Very happy, but tired... 7 hours into the auction, 1AM here.

rgarner
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posted 03-03-2018 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I landed the MA-9 Flown Cloth Wipe from the Wendt Collection, a small item but fits nicely into my flown food/accessories collection.

Chuckster01
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posted 03-03-2018 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When the consignor of lot 649 came to the American Space Museum to consign the identical undersized foam patch displays I told him they were copies. Now I see Lunar Legacies is selling the same copy as a real flown patch display.

As Lunar Legacies has sold so many flown patch displays, this one is undersized, not matted and on foam board, all red flags. The display is a copy and the patch is not flown.

And Mike knew it when he took them to Lunar Legacies.

Greggy_D
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posted 03-03-2018 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greggy_D   Click Here to Email Greggy_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chuck, you are correct. I almost was burnt by this presentation six years ago (also purchased from Donnis).

denali414
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posted 03-03-2018 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that was fun, but long!

Added to my growing medallion collection with some LSP medallions and the NACA medallion with metal from the Curtis Jenny and the 20th anniversary ASTP medallion/Lucite. Also some small flown pieces. Bummed I missed out on the MILA medallion, but better luck next time.

fredtrav
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posted 03-03-2018 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I had to miss the first part of the auction, and lost the one item I really wanted, but I did add some signed shuttle covers to my collection and a shuttle flown American flag which was something I had wanted for awhile. As well as Fabian's shuttle tile. So I am happy, mostly.

davidcwagner
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posted 03-03-2018 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidcwagner   Click Here to Email davidcwagner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Won Lot 116A: Liberty Bell 7 Flown Section of Grissom's Spacesuit. I am a little worried by it's low price. Good buy or not good buy?

JBoe
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posted 03-03-2018 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JBoe   Click Here to Email JBoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won one out of three I placed a bid for. I was really wanting the Pratt Whitney SSME Advanced Turbopump patch. That said, I got Lot 677 (one of the Russian ISS medals) for under my max bid.

Glad to see others get what they were aiming for and for very reasonable prices. Congrats!

neo1022
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posted 03-04-2018 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neo1022   Click Here to Email neo1022     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. I think this auction might have set a record for a single flown Gemini checklist page: the Gemini 5 Experimental Procedures page went for $1900 before fees (with no Conrad mission annotations). These are usually in the $500 range. Or am I missing something on this one?

Also, the flown shuttle checklists and cue card brought higher prices than I'd expected based on previous auctions. Lousma STS-3 checklists were going for about $1200 to $1500 just a year ago, and flown shuttle cue cards could be had for a *lot* less than the $400 to $650 we saw today.

Seems the high prices of flown Apollo material are finally making shuttle look more attractive. Or maybe the shuttle collectors are just stepping it up. Good for consignors, not so great for newer collectors Anyway, really interesting auction to watch...

hoorenz
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posted 03-04-2018 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by neo1022:
Also, the flown shuttle checklists and cue card brought higher prices than I'd expected based on previous auctions.
What might have added to the price of the flown STS-7 cue cards is that the Alert Responses cue card and SCA Power Up cue card were visible in the first series of images taken in orbit of Sally Ride.

Also, Ride and Fabian actually had to use the Alert Responses cue card when the Palapa sunshield failed to close (which in turn was a result of misreading a late-minute addition to the SCA Power Up procedures).

GACspaceguy
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posted 03-04-2018 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another great auction. I picked up a couple of items including the "NASA Headquarters Logo Wall Display" which was my number one item as I have wanted a plaque like that for some time.

Looks like you cannot go back in Invaluable and see what the lots sold for unless you pay a $200 subscription. You would think as a lot winner they would at least let you look for the first week or so, certainly out of Don's control though.

Edit: Looks like AuctionZip has the realized prices listed.

tnperri
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posted 03-04-2018 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tnperri   Click Here to Email tnperri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won the two auctions I wanted and below what I expected to pay. I expected more of a fight for the MILA medal.

denali414
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posted 03-04-2018 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, after I got the lucite and NACA real cheap, honestly went to dinner and figured had time to get home before the MILA coin came up (I was the high bid when left). Got home four bids after it went off, or you would have had a little more of a battle — but in the end you prob win anyway.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-04-2018 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
Looks like you cannot go back in Invaluable and see what the lots sold for...
So long as are you logged in, you can see the auction results on Invaluable here.

GACspaceguy
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posted 03-04-2018 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert, apart from your posted link I went back into the site and figured out how to get there on my own.

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posted 03-04-2018 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lot 543 Fabian flight suit with no tab of STS-51D/STS-51G. Possible population of this patch produced?

Lot 544 same design patch with now added Jarvis and Walker tab.

What was the auction bid on 544? I did not sign up.

1202 Alarm
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posted 03-05-2018 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1202 Alarm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
  • 543: John Fabian's STS-51G Era Flight Suit: $300
  • 544: John Fabian's STS-51G Mission Patch With Jarvis: $200

Tallpaul
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posted 03-05-2018 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tallpaul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won a few items on which I had earlier placed bids. Still having technical issues with the "swipe to bid" submission process for bidding during the live auction. For some reason it doesn't work on my laptop. At least I saved myself a bunch of money.

denali414
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posted 03-05-2018 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you running Explorer? I found had trouble with Explorer, but when ran it with Chrome no problems.

GACspaceguy
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posted 03-05-2018 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same here I had to use Firefox to make it run.

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posted 03-05-2018 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lunarrv15:
Possible population of this patch produced?
The 51-D/G with out the PS tab is probably from late 1984 early 1985. I would think that there are as many of those as the 51-D Jarvis Wlaker patch. It is the same 4 inch patch, just made before the payload specialists were assigned. Would be easy to make by taking the tab off a 51-G patch.

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posted 03-05-2018 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tnperri   Click Here to Email tnperri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I won lot 647: STS-121 Flown LMC Patches, Pins & Stickers. My question is is it normal for employees to consign left over items like this?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-05-2018 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More information is needed, but in general, no.

The patches, decals and pins were not flown for an individual; they were flown as a "Goddard Space Flight Center LMC Presentation" in the Official Flight Kit, which means they were (are?) federal property until presented to team members (or the intended recipients). The consignor would need to provide more details as to how the remainder became his or her property to sell.

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And judging by the size of the package they where shipped in It would seen these are not the leftovers but almost the entire package!

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I started to bid on the lot, but had problems with the provenance. It seemed odd that the only thing it had was a handwritten note on the stickers that it was flown. Not even a name of the person it was being sent to or a letter from the consignor.

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posted 03-06-2018 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tallpaul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by denali414:
...ran it with Chrome no problems.
Many thanks for the technical support. I do use Chrome so I think the problem lies with the touch pad on my laptop.

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posted 03-17-2018 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tnperri   Click Here to Email tnperri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So anyone get the stuff yet? I haven't even got a tracking number yet.

rgarner
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posted 03-17-2018 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LL is notorious in the amount of time it takes to ship out goods. You’ll receive your winnings eventually.

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I paid by phone on the day I got my invoice, March 6. I got a USPS email with my tracking number yesterday. Considering the +170 packages to be sent apparently, I think it's fair.

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posted 03-17-2018 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tnperri   Click Here to Email tnperri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too paid on March 6th. Considering I have had email issues I was curious as I need to track anything shipped to me because I always seem to have a problem with the delivery, no matter how many times I tell them how to find my place.

JBoe
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posted 03-17-2018 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JBoe   Click Here to Email JBoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, I had to send an email to get an update. I sent one earlier (12 March) this week and I got a follow up email with the USPS tracking number a few days later.

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My item arrived yesterday in great shape.

JBoe
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Before my last post I didn't check the tracking... it arrived moments ago. That said, the USPS transit was approximately 5 days. Not too bad.

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posted 03-23-2018 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thisismills   Click Here to Email thisismills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
The consignor would need to provide more details as to how the remainder became his or her property to sell.
Well looks like these are now listed on eBay for sale individually. Robert, not sure if your question about transfer has been answered yet.

Searching "Flown STS-121 LMC" brings up the three listings.

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posted 03-23-2018 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tnperri   Click Here to Email tnperri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was assured that the person consigning these items had NASA approval.


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