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BLivingston
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posted 08-13-2015 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLivingston   Click Here to Email BLivingston     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RRAuction has the distinct privilege of representing Commander Dave Scott's Apollo 15 lunar surface worn chronograph as part of our October 22, 2015 Space and Aviation Auction. A narrated preview featuring photos and compelling provenance for this historic piece will soon be posted to our website.

Because this is the only lunar surface worn watch that can be legally sold, RRAuction anticipates intense around-the-world media attention. This is an excellent opportunity for long time collectors to consign their exceptional space pieces. Our consignment deadline is extended to Tuesday, Aug. 18 to accommodate a limited number of additional qualifying consignments. To be considered for this auction schedule, items should support a sales estimate of $10,000 or higher.

We are also looking for a "lifetime" collection for our next Space event in early 2016. All inquiries welcome.

Please direct consignment queries to Elizebeth Otto.

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Larry McGlynn
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posted 08-15-2015 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a great looking watch and it even looks like a Speedy!

SpaceAholic
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posted 09-04-2015 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The main auction virtual catalog as well as the Apollo 15 Lunar Surface Worn Chronograph Bulova catalog are now online!

rgarner
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posted 09-04-2015 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. That is quite a collection - everything I am looking for just so happens to be part of it. Well, if you'll excuse me I will be popping down the bank to withdraw my life savings - cheerio.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-30-2015 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Only privately-owned astronaut wristwatch worn on the moon heads to auction

Forty-four years ago, David Scott's watch broke while he was out for a walk.

Somehow, the crystal that protected the wristwatch's face popped off. Scott did not notice it had broken until after he had come back inside. Fortunately for him, he had another watch to wear.

Of course, none of that would be noteworthy had Scott not been on the moon at the time.

TLIGuy
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posted 09-30-2015 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLIGuy   Click Here to Email TLIGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many of us in the watch collecting underworld are really thrilled about Scott's Bulova watch coming to auction and will be watching it closely.

rgarner
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posted 09-30-2015 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The watch will go for a pretty penny, of that I'm certain. I'd be surprised if it went for less than $250k.

TLIGuy
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posted 09-30-2015 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLIGuy   Click Here to Email TLIGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll just throw out the question because I'm curious from a space collectors perspective.

Do you see the watch going to a watch collector or a space memorabilia collector?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-30-2015 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TLIGuy:
...will be watching it closely.
Here is how the Bulova watch auction is going to work:
  • Online bidding will be available until 6 p.m. EDT on Oct. 22.

  • At 7 p.m. EDT on Oct. 22, the live auction will begin in RR Auction's gallery in Boston. Only phone bids, absentee bids or in-person bids will be accepted during the live auction.

    RR Auction is planning to provide live online coverage of the live auction.

TLIGuy
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posted 09-30-2015 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLIGuy   Click Here to Email TLIGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting gouge for those of us not well versed on how this all plays out.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-30-2015 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's a toss up. Looking at past high ticket items, the alleged Irwin Hasselblad sold to a camera enthusiast, whereas the first Hasselblad used in space sold to a space collector.

I'm just curious if Bulova itself might bid...

Larry McGlynn
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posted 09-30-2015 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Considering that flown cuff checklists are selling for an average of $350,000 and there are a few of them out there (I count about seven that have and can come up for potential sale) as well as a flown RHC handle sold for $610,000. I figure that the only lunar surface used watch available to the private collector will go for more money.

This is a space and watch collector's dream watch. It is a true one of a kind watch. A wonderful complication watch with an adaptation of the grandfather of all complex movements in the Lemania 5100 by using a Valjoux 72 movement with a center column. I tend to think that there maybe a watch collector out there that may want such a rare timepiece and definitely a space collector will be interested.

What has been fascinating about this story is how Bulova and it's then Chairman of the Board, Omar Bradley (5 Star Army General in WW2), fought so hard to get a US watch on Apollo and yet, the watch has origins in Switzerland.

There was a cold war going on between two watch companies vying to place a watch on the Moon. I wonder how history would have been changed if Bulova was allowed to publicize the fact that they, too, had a watch that landed on the Moon?

Philip
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posted 10-07-2015 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Register: Apollo 15 commander's lunar timepiece goes under the hammer
A watch worn by Apollo 15 commander Dave R. Scott on the surface of the Moon goes under the hammer later this month, and could sell for a cool $1m.

rjurek349
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posted 10-15-2015 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rjurek349   Click Here to Email rjurek349     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the auction has begun! Some amazing lots, but really -- it will be interesting to see where the Bulova watch ends up. Could set an all-time record for a surface flown personal artifact.

Chuckster01
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posted 10-17-2015 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was my understanding the both Jim Irwin and Dave Scott left there PPKs with all there personal memorabilia in the LEM when it was jettisoned? I am wondering is there a mistake in this auction listing or in my memory of history?
Jim Irwin's flown Personal Preference Kit (PPK) beta cloth bag, 5.75 x 9, carried into lunar orbit aboard the Command Module Endeavor.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 10-17-2015 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chuck, only the PPKs for Scott and Irwin that were aboard LM-10/Falcon did not return back to earth, however, both crewmen also had their own PPKs aboard CM-112/Endeavour as well.

rgarner
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posted 10-19-2015 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, is the live auction only for the watch or is it for the entire auction?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-19-2015 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The live auction is only for the watch. The other items will close online (with the 30 minute rule) as normal.

rgarner
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posted 10-19-2015 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Understood, thank you.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-22-2015 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Online bidding on David Scott's Apollo 15 flown Bulova watch has now ended with 24 bids totaling $439,230.

The live auction in Boston begins at 7 p.m. EDT. If a live stream is not available, the results will be reported here.

Update: Technical difficulties will prevent the live stream but I will be listening in on the sale and share what transpires.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-22-2015 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After five minutes of spirited bidding, David Scott's Apollo 15 Bulova watch closed with a hammer price of $1.3 million (with buyer's premium, the total is $1,625,000)!

4allmankind
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posted 10-22-2015 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4allmankind   Click Here to Email 4allmankind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely amazing! What a number.

Steve Zarelli
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posted 10-22-2015 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astonishing. Makes you wish you were there... must have been electric in the room.

rgarner
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posted 10-22-2015 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just hope this drums up interest in the market. There are a lot of people who aren't aware that you can own such wonderful pieces of history, if they did, well, it could really take off.

mode1charlie
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posted 10-22-2015 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. Congrats to the winning bidder, and Mr. Consigner, drinks are on you!

tnperri
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posted 10-22-2015 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tnperri   Click Here to Email tnperri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I had that kind of money to spend on my collections.

bklyn55
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posted 10-22-2015 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bklyn55   Click Here to Email bklyn55     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going to bid but RR wouldn't accept my PayPal debit card!

Larry McGlynn
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posted 10-22-2015 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was at the auction tonight. It was electric. Even the auctioneer (a very experienced man) was nervous before the bidding started.

The phone bidding started at the $439,000 and worked it's way to $700,000 and paused for a few seconds. Then the bid for $750,000 was made and the bidding sped through to the million dollar mark. That was an amazing number and, then, the bidding kept going until one US bidder made the final bid of $1.3M. The room was ecstatic with the outcome as was the consignor who was listening in on the auction.

To put this into perspective, there were many years where a 400 lot auction that raised a million dollars was considered a very successful auction. Now one lot generated $1.65M. Now that is successful.

It is the most paid for a flown manned spaceflight artifact at this point in time.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-22-2015 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Larry McGlynn:
It is the most paid for a flown manned spaceflight artifact at this point in time.
Sotheby's auctioned the crewed Soyuz TM-10 capsule for $1,652,500 in 1993, so the watch comes in a close second. Still, very impressive!

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posted 10-22-2015 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if the winner was a watch collector or a space artifact collector or maybe a mix of both...

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posted 10-23-2015 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Astronaut's watch worn on the moon sells for record $1.6 million

The only privately-owned watch to be worn on the surface of the moon was auctioned for more than $1 million on Thursday night (Oct. 22), setting what is believed to be a record for the most-ever paid for a piece of astronaut memorabilia.

The Bulova timepiece, which Apollo 15 commander David Scott wore during NASA's fourth successful lunar landing mission in 1971, was sold by RR Auction of Boston for an astronomical $1,625,000 to businessman from Florida who wished to remain anonymous. The sale, which opened at $50,000 online on Oct. 15, ended Thursday evening during a live auction where the winner and his competing bidders participated by phone.

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posted 10-23-2015 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rjurek349   Click Here to Email rjurek349     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done, RR - a masterful job of marketing and finding the right buyer for this amazing treasure.

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posted 10-23-2015 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tallpaul   Click Here to Email Tallpaul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, it was a fun auction. There were plenty of bargains available for those of more limited means.

I was amazed at the prices for the insurance covers. Ones from Apollo 11 have always been really expensive compared to other missions but, the prices for those from other missions such as Apollo 12, Apollo 13, and Apollo 16 are starting to regularly shatter the $3,000 and beyond barrier. At a few hundred dollars each, insurance covers from Apollo 15 would appear to be a steal.

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posted 10-23-2015 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for divemaster   Click Here to Email divemaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't Ross Perot buy the Soyuz?

I'd have to go back in my catalogs, but where are the insurance covers in relation to what they sold for at Christie's in 1999? That has been the high water mark for years.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-23-2015 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
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Didn't Ross Perot buy the Soyuz?
His foundation did, and then loaned it (along with a number of other Russian space artifacts) to the Smithsonian.

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posted 10-23-2015 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was the highest paid for a flown astronaut spaceflight artifact. Let's hope the record doesn't stand for long.

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