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Topic: Heritage Auction Galleries Nov. 2011 auction
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Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-07-2011 09:32 AM
Heritage Auction Galleries release Apollo 13 Commander James Lovell's checklist that got astronauts safely home leads Heritage Auctions Space event"...if this paperwork isn't right, who knows where we'll end up out here"; Historic handwritten calculations made by Lovell in the heat of disaster, expected to bring $25,000, Nov. 30 in Dallas They are some of the most famous words in the history of the NASA Space Program: "Houston, we've had a problem." Now, the Lunar Module Systems Activation Checklist upon which Commander James Lovell made his handwritten calculations to guide his wounded spacecraft and crew home — scant two hours after uttering those famous words — has been consigned by Commander Lovell himself and is expected to bring $25,000+ when it comes across the block as part of Heritage Auctions' Nov. 30 Space Signature Auction. "There are few space artifacts as evocative or important as this little booklet," said Michael Riley, Senior Historian at Heritage Auctions. "Without these successful calculations and the fast transfer of the information from one computer to the other, the Apollo 13 crew would not have known their position in space, possibly causing the outcome of the already ill-fated mission to be quite different." It is a moment expertly dramatized in the 1995 Ron Howard film Apollo 13. At approximately 101 minutes into the movie, there are two extreme close-ups of the prop checklist that match this very lot as Lovell (Tom Hanks) nervously makes the calculations and asks Houston to double-check his arithmetic. His next line perfectly sums up how historically important this piece is: "We've got negative visibility in our star field" Hanks, as Lovell, says, "and if this paperwork isn't right, who knows where we'll end up out here." As a blue note attached to the booklet, in Lovell's hand, writes, this is the LM Systems Activation Checklist that the Apollo 13 Commander "...utilized to transfer CSM guidance data to LM guidance system so the spacecraft data of our attitude with respect to the celestial sphere would not be lost. Note the time these calculations were made GET 58 08 06 about two hours after the explosion..." "Captain Lovell has held this checklist book in his personal collection for 41 years and now feels it's time to turn over its stewardship to another person," said Riley. "This may not have made it to the moon's surface, but it saved the lives of some of America's finest, captivated the world's attention and is an amazing artifact of a moment that was, simultaneously, one of America's darkest and proudest." A major highlight of the auction is sure to be John Young's Apollo training-used coverall jacket (Estimate: $24,000+), while a Neil Armstrong 1969-dated Autograph Note Signed, which mentions that "the eye sees primarily shades of grey on the Moon, is expected to bring $12,000+. The Heritage Nov. 30 Space auction contains a host of other superb Apollo program and NASA-related material, including a training used Apollo A7L IVA glove from Alan Shepard (Estimate: $5,000+) and an Apollo 1 crew-signed color photo (Estimate: $4,000+), the last one available from the collection of Roger Chaffee's widow. A handwritten Apollo 11 Grumman Lunar Module Construction Log from the collection of noted Chariots for Apollo author and scientist Charles Pellegrino, is expected to entice collectors to the tune of $9,000+, while all three types of Apollo 11 Insurance Covers should prove much in demand and bring upwards of $5,000+ each. A great group of flags flown aboard Apollo 15 from mission CMP Al Worden's collection are expected to bring more than $2,500 each, Jack Lousma's framed Flight Suit Flown Patches from STS-3, the third-ever Shuttle flight is sure to create collector buzz and stir up spirited bidding with a $10,000+ estimate for these rare patches from the now defunct shuttle program. |
Greggy_D Member Posts: 977 From: Michigan Registered: Jul 2006
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posted 11-07-2011 05:17 PM
Some of the reserve prices are a bit off-putting. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-08-2011 03:07 PM
I particularly like lot 40155; the Alan Shepard IVA glove. But, given recent events with Ed Mitchell's DAC camera, and the withdrawal of an Armstrong glove from RR recently it does beggar the question; will NASA want its glove back? |
spaceman Member Posts: 1104 From: Walsall, West Midlands, UK Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 11-23-2011 01:01 PM
Some of the auction lots to be featured on the national news tonight, ITV, here in the U.K. |
lunareagle Member Posts: 587 From: Michigan Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-28-2011 09:16 AM
LIVE Auction begins at 10:00 AM Central Time this Wednesday November 30.Be sure to be registered in advance if you intend to bid on any items. And, as I have advised in the past, it DOES make sense to place your highest "secret" bid on an item in advance, just in case you have technical difficulties, like phone or Internet issues, which have plagued all auctions at times. A "secret" bid will raise your bid by an additional increment if someone is bidding against you until you reach your maximum amount, it does NOT mean that is what you will have to pay, only that it is the maximum amount that will be bid on your behalf. There are truly some wonderful items and it is getting to the end of when you can acquire an item directly from an astronaut. Good luck. |
spaceflori Member Posts: 1499 From: Germany Registered: May 2000
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posted 11-29-2011 05:52 AM
I don't think you need to register again with them if you already have an account there and bid in the past - at least it says that when I try to pre-qualify on their website. |
MikeSpace unregistered
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posted 11-30-2011 11:37 AM
Apollo 13 LM Activation list went for $388,375.00, $325,000 + fees. |
space1 Member Posts: 853 From: Danville, Ohio Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 11-30-2011 11:43 AM
Winning bidder, PLEASE keep it intact! |
MikeSpace unregistered
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posted 11-30-2011 12:54 PM
I had Apollo 13-like anxiety watching the bidding... fast and furious. Congrats to the consignor. |
SpaceAholic Member Posts: 4437 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-30-2011 01:03 PM
Tom Hanks or Ron Howard the possible new owner? |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-30-2011 01:36 PM
The buyer is identified by Heritage as an "East Coast collector," which would rule out both Hanks and Howard.I suppose we'll have to wait to see if the new owner comes forward or loans the checklist to a museum for display... |
spaced out Member Posts: 3110 From: Paris, France Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 11-30-2011 01:36 PM
Another result that stood out - Apollo 14 surface flown US flag $65,725!Seems like a lot of flown state and foreign flags are selling at $1,500 or not at all. This always surprises me as there really aren't that many flags from each country or state that flew on each Apollo mission. You would have thought there were enough people in each place with an interest in history/space to make these items sell. The Dutch were certainly spoiled for choice this time around as there were Netherlands flown flags from Apollo 9, Apollo 14 and Apollo 15. I was amazed that all went unsold and are now available as post-auction buys at $1,500 each. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-30-2011 01:41 PM
Heritage Auction Galleries release Apollo 13 checklist brings $388,375 at Heritage Auctions in DallasFrom famous "Houston, we've had a problem..." mission; Historic handwritten calculations made by Lovell in the aftermath of disaster brings highest price for non-moon landed piece of Apollo memorabilia, Nov. 30 in Dallas The Apollo 13 Lunar Module Systems Activation Checklist upon which Commander James Lovell made his handwritten calculations to guide his wounded spacecraft and crew home — scant two hours after uttering the famous words, "Houston, we've had a problem." — consigned by Commander Lovell himself, brought $388,375 today as the centerpiece of Heritage Auctions' Nov. 30 Space Signature(R) Auction. It was sold to an anonymous East Coast collector. The $388,375 final price realized, which includes 19.5% Buyer's Premium, is the highest price ever realized for a piece of Apollo Space Program memorabilia that did not make it to the moon's surface. The winning bid was more than 15 times the pre-auction estimate of $25,000+. "This little booklet is a powerful reminder of a great American story that was not only a great American moment, but also triumphant moment for the world," said Michael Riley, Senior Historian at Heritage Auctions. "As far as space memorabilia goes, it's likely as great as something can get without having actually been to the lunar surface. In many ways it's even more amazing than that. Without this the Apollo 13 crew would not have known their position in space. It helped create the greatest successful failure in the history of space exploration." The April 1970 moment was expertly dramatized in the 1995 Ron Howard film Apollo 13 at approximately 101 minutes into the movie. Two extreme close-ups of the prop checklist match this very lot as Lovell (Tom Hanks) nervously makes the calculations and asks Houston to double-check his arithmetic. His next line perfectly sums up how historically important this piece is: "We've got negative visibility in our star field" Hanks, as Lovell, says," and if this paperwork isn't right, who knows where we'll end up out here." As a blue note attached to the booklet, in Lovell's hand, writes, this is the LM Systems Activation Checklist that the Apollo13 Commander "...utilized to transfer CSM guidance data to LM guidance system so the spacecraft data of our attitude with respect to the celestial sphere would not be lost. Note the time these calculations were made GET 58 08 06 about two hours after the explosion..." "We had interest in this piece from so many different corners," said Riley. "Not just Space collectors, but people from all corners of the planet, collectors and non-collectors alike. It's such an evocative piece, reminding us of the very best things that humans can accomplish in the face of adversity." |
4allmankind Member Posts: 1043 From: Dallas Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 11-30-2011 03:36 PM
That sure was a fun sale to watch. The online stream worked flawlessly for me. The A13 checklist was obviously the stunning moment of the sale, but how about the Robbins medallions? The market for flown treasure is clearly quite strong! |
gliderpilotuk Member Posts: 3398 From: London, UK Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 11-30-2011 04:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by MikeSpace: Apollo 13 LM Activation list went for $388,375.00, $325,000 + fees.
Wow $5,500 a page just to break even.  Did I see Lot 40065 Apollo 9 camera handle go for $22k?!? |
spaced out Member Posts: 3110 From: Paris, France Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 11-30-2011 05:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by 4allmankind: The A13 checklist was obviously the stunning moment of the sale, but how about the Robbins medallions? The market for flown treasure is clearly quite strong!
I've updated the annex of my site with the Robbins results, but it's worth summarizing here: - Apollo 7 $4,780 - a new record
- Apollo 8 $17,925 (Lovell) - a new record
- Apollo 8 $5,975 (Schweickart)
- Apollo 9 $7,767 - new record
- Apollo 9 $2,270 (in lucite)
- Apollo 10 $15,535 - a new record (nearly 3 x previous)
- Apollo 11 $26,290
- Apollo 12 $11,950 - a new record
- Apollo 13 $17,925 (Lovell) - a new record (previous high was $11,590)
- Apollo 13 $6,572 (Schweickart)
- Apollo 14 $14,340 - 2nd highest ever
- Apollo 15 $28,680 - a new record
- Apollo 17 $8,692 (UNflown) - a new record (3.5 x previous record)
- Skylab I $8,962 - a new record (nearly double previous)
- Skylab II $14,340 - a new record (5 x previous record)
- ASTP $9,560 - a new record for non-gold version (double previous)
There were at least two collectors very keen to put together a complete set of these medallions at any cost. |
spaced out Member Posts: 3110 From: Paris, France Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 11-30-2011 05:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by gliderpilotuk: Wow $5,500 a page just to break even.
Yeah, but if you cut each page into 1/2" squares and stick those in lucite it's only $29 a pop! Money, money, money!  |
MikeSpace unregistered
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posted 11-30-2011 08:04 PM
I was the only bidder on the Apollo 11 beta cloth signed by Buzz Aldrin for opening price of $400 + $88 fees. Given signing fee at ASF/Spacefest events of $400 I was surprised I was the only bidder. Glad I was late to the auction and missed the flown Apollo 8 beta cloth, that was tempting but way past my budget. Pretty amazing seeing the Robbins Medals prices. All you need is two or more eager bidders... |
SkyMan1958 Member Posts: 867 From: CA. Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 11-30-2011 09:17 PM
Regarding the Apollo 13 LM activation checklist price, I find it amusing, and a bit sad regarding values in America, that a pristine copy of the first issue of "Action Comics" (where Superman made his first appearance) went up for auction today and the COMIC went for $2,160,000. It certainly puts things in perspective regarding the RELATIVELY low prices of space memorabilia. |
SpaceAholic Member Posts: 4437 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-30-2011 10:19 PM
So any predictions for what/when the first Mercury, Gemini or Apollo artifact will be that breaks through the one million dollar barrier? |
driftingtotheright unregistered
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posted 11-30-2011 11:38 PM
Scott, my guess is the segment of the Apollo 11 descent chart showing the landing site. I was told in 2007 that Buzz still had it. By the way, aren't there two pages per card stock sheet in the Apollo 13 LM checklist, such that there are more like 35 rather than 70 individually? |
Larry McGlynn Member Posts: 1255 From: Boston, MA Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 12-01-2011 01:54 AM
The one million dollar mark may have been already broken. According to a catalog I have in my files, the million dollar mark was surpassed in 2001. Pete Conrad's Apollo 12 wrist cuff checklist was offered by a dealer on the East Coast for $1.3 million dollars. The cuff checklist was bought and later donated to the Museum of Flight. The dealer would not confirm or deny to me that the checklist sold for the asking price (wink wink). |
arjuna unregistered
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posted 12-01-2011 02:43 AM
Wow, amazing prices. Someone out there has money. Here's to hoping they also have taste - and not chop up the Apollo 13 checklist. |
nasamad Member Posts: 2121 From: Essex, UK Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 12-01-2011 03:53 AM
Seems like we are back to the Christie's 1999 auction prices, despite the recession. Amazing! |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 12-01-2011 08:47 AM
As impressive as some of the prices realized were many were atypical. Apollo 10 Robbins have sold as recently as a few months ago for their usual $3k to $3.5k price range.Unlike the Apollo 11 counterparts I find it hard to believe Apollo 10 flown Robbins medallions have made such a major step change in value. Only time will tell. |
David Carey Member Posts: 782 From: Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 12-01-2011 11:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by SpaceAholic: So any predictions for what/when the first Mercury, Gemini or Apollo artifact will be that breaks through the one million dollar barrier?
I'm pretty sure it'll be my "Apollo 17 Station Wagon/Sedan Viewing Pass" once I decide to bring it to market. Provenance is impeccable, having come directly from the dash of a woodgrain-vinyl-clad 1971 Pontiac Grand Safari found languishing in a weed-choked Merritt Island junkyard. |
chet Member Posts: 1506 From: Beverly Hills, Calif. Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-01-2011 11:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by driftingtotheright: By the way, aren't there two pages per card stock sheet in the Apollo 13 LM checklist, such that there are more like 35 rather than 70 individually?
You are correct - the Apollo 13 checklist has 35 page sheets, not 70, making the page cost approx. $11,000 per! |
MadSci Member Posts: 226 From: Maryland, USA Registered: Oct 2008
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posted 12-01-2011 04:30 PM
Yikes - makes me wonder what my Apollo 8 Trajectory correction burn checklist would fetch? I'd better start giving out fake home addresses from now on!  |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-01-2011 04:39 PM
The checklist's sale raises an interesting question (at least to me): how much did/does the film "Apollo 13" enhance the desirability of certain artifacts? Would the spare LIOH canisters that have sold since the movie was released been as desirable without the carbon-dioxide scrubber being so prominently featured in the movie? In regards to the checklist, I wonder what the buyer (and other bidders) considered by way of the film and its prop version of the same artifact. Heritage highlighted in its pre-auction publicity the movie's reference to the 70-page document but did it ultimately play a role (and, if so, how large a role) in pushing this checklist beyond the "going rate" for other similar artifacts? |
MikeSpace unregistered
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posted 12-01-2011 05:11 PM
I wondered if one/more of the bidders wasn't a space collector per se but more a Hollywood memorabilia collector, or some Uber-fan of the movie with deep pockets.
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music_space Member Posts: 1179 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 12-01-2011 06:34 PM
Fans-to-be-collectors of the movie have had numerous opportunities to acquire A13 stuff over the years. But for some reason this sale got special coverage – it was even mentioned in Canada's own Radio-Canada radio new coverage - which may account for some of this sale's success.What surprised me even more were the high prices fetched by all the Apollo 9 mission. The so-called "connoisseur's mission" never fetched such market values before. I'm resisting, as I should, the temptation to reevaluate my collection's value according to these prices, but since I've been putting some items aside to sell for a few months, it's hard not to... |
GACspaceguy Member Posts: 2476 From: Guyton, GA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 12-01-2011 06:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Robert Pearlman: The checklist's sale raises an interesting question (at least to me): how much did/does the film "Apollo 13" enhance the desirability of certain artifacts?
I had a long discussion on this item with a group of my engineers this morning. These folks wanted my thoughts on the auction and specifically the checklist. While all aerospace engineers, none had any special interest in collecting space artifacts. It was obvious to me that they felt the connection to the movie was the driving force behind the huge closing price. They were interested in my thoughts on who would pay this amount for a space flown item (I have a number of flown items in my office, Skylab piece, CM Kapton, a section of flown shuttle honeycomb plate). Of course they jumped to the conclusion that it was an auction battle between the likes of Tom Hanks and Ron Howard. I explained the buyer was from the east coast but that did not convince them as they theorized that it would be lawyers bidding for them. All of that to say it was the movie and those associated with it that drove the conversation and the attention to this auction item. |
fredtrav Member Posts: 1673 From: Birmingham AL Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 12-01-2011 07:27 PM
It probably helped this item but that does not explain the huge run up in prices on the Robbins Medals. |
music_space Member Posts: 1179 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 12-01-2011 11:22 PM
I noticed that most of the unusually high results went for lots with direct or close chain of custody to an astronaut. Maybe the 'extended' collectors community out there got wise to the difference it makes when an item comes from an astronaut's estate?I seem to remember that the auctioneer mentionned that fact at one point during the sale. Maybe was it also featured in their press and marketing communications? That, or then collectSPACE's readership has recently reached new bunches of collectors who wouldn't have read it before. Does the site's statistics warrant such a claim, Robert? |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-02-2011 01:16 AM
I suspect it's far simpler: better bragging rights. Owning something owned by a celebrity – in this case, an astronaut – has a higher "cool" quotient than the same item sourced by other means. |
lunareagle Member Posts: 587 From: Michigan Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-02-2011 01:32 PM
There are still a number of flown items for sale at the minimum bids. See post auction buys here. |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3445 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-02-2011 01:58 PM
How do we know the Worden-signed flag of Poland isn't the flag of Indonesia, which Worden signed upside-down?  |
Jurvetson Member Posts: 93 From: Los Altos an SF, CA, United States Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 12-02-2011 05:38 PM
As I got outbid on five items by people on the floor, I had to conclude that they are right; everything is bigger in Texas. |
Larry McGlynn Member Posts: 1255 From: Boston, MA Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 12-02-2011 08:44 PM
Howard has mentioned that there are post auction lots still for sale. It is interesting how few after auction lots are available this time around. I am not denigrating the current crop of leftovers, but there are a lot less than prior years. It was a successful auction. Are people looking for collectibles that will retain their value in the future? And what will the next space major space auction bring? |
MikeSpace unregistered
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posted 12-14-2011 01:59 PM
Just called them to ask when my item would be shipped, and they said I wasn't the winner.I was the only bidder on the Apollo 11 Aldrin signed beta cloth, saw it go Green when I won it, and now they say some other internet bidder won it. I could have sworn I pre-bid, saw no other bidders bid when it went live, and boom, hammer down. I looked at my Heritage Bid history and nothing there. How could I have bid, and not bid. I must have made some error or assumption. Or I'm dead wrong. Has anyone had a similar experience? |