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Topic: Aurora September 2010 auction
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mjanovec Member Posts: 3811 From: Midwest, USA Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 09-26-2010 01:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by freshspot: It seems to me that these sorts of discussions happen frequently regarding autographs. It doesn't matter if its eBay or auction houses or dealers or private sales, the discussions on these message boards frequently digress into autographs.
The discussion is about autographs, because the item in question is a rare circumstance in which definitive proof can be given that the item is a forgery (and not just a wildly atypical example). The discussion is important to have, because it outlines the level of review that this auction house puts into these items before accepting them. One should also be questioning the amount of scrutiny that was given to artifacts and flown items in the same sale. If the auction house doesn't do basic research to authenticate autographs, how much can you trust their assessment of other items they are selling? quote: Originally posted by freshspot: It seems to me that purchasing autographs is always fraught with danger. That's why I stopped doing it years ago. Its always one person's opinion against another's and like politics and religion, it is a discussion that has no winners.
I think it's an exaggeration to say purchasing autographs is always fraught with danger. Certainly, buying signatures from the astronauts themselves or participating in mail-in signings is very safe. Even signatures you didn't see being signed can be purchased with a good amount of certainty, if buyers demand excellent provenance or, at a minimum, obtain good advice from experienced authenticators. The way I see it, autographs are really no more fraught with danger than buying "flown" items. In fact, I would argue that flown items require much more reliable provenance than autographs do. |
gliderpilotuk Member Posts: 3398 From: London, UK Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 09-26-2010 01:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by mjanovec: The way I see it, autographs are really no more fraught with danger than buying "flown" items. In fact, I would argue that flown items require much more reliable provenance than autographs do.
Yes indeedy!And how often is that provenance someone's word? Or the item something that cannot be referenced to a manifest or checklist? It's the same poker game - or at least as risky a poker game as you wish to make it. In this case, however, a virgin cardplayer was up against a dealer with a stacked deck. |
benguttery Member Posts: 547 From: Fort Worth, TX, USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 09-26-2010 03:37 PM
Did anyone score any prizes or were you too busy complaining about the auction? |
cosmos-walter Member Posts: 691 From: Salzburg, Austria Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 09-26-2010 04:26 PM
There are philatelic experts who are expertising flown covers at philatelic expertising organisations like international A.I.E.P. or German BPP. They are responsible for their opinions and certificates. Thus it is much saver to collect flown covers compared with flown flags. | |
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