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andrewcli
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posted 11-12-2008 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received a Regency-Superior catalogue today. It looks like they are going to have another auction on December 19-21st, mainly autographs.

Andrew

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Auction catalogs are now available and are in the mail for our upcoming space memorabilia auction on Friday, December 19th beginning at 10am (Pacific Time) at our Beverly Hills, California gallery. This auction features over 700 lots of Space and Aviation collectibles with many flown items from Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Shuttle programs.

Highlights from this auction include a flown page from the Control System Malfunction Procedures from Gemini 5 (lot #75). This page 1 of 5 was signed by command pilot Gordon Cooper, and by pilot Charles Conrad with hand notations by Conrad. A 2008 PSA/DNA certificate of authenticity accompanies this lot.

A 1972 flown LM Lunar Surface checklist is being offered from the Apollo 17 program (lot #230). This double-sided, single page 8-7 & 8-8 was in the possession of Apollo 17 Commander Eugene Cernan, and is accompanied with a 2006 certificate of authenticity from Spaceflori Corporation, headed by Florian Noller. This is a rare opportunity to acquire an actual item flown to the Moon's surface on the last manned lunar mission 36 years ago.

Another featured item is a flown Gemini Brass Flashlight from GT-12 (lot #88). It is a compact, 5"x1" flashlight that was used during the GT-12 mission complete with bulb and lens, as well as a white Velcro patch on one side. Designed for use in the dark and vacuum of space, this flashlight was an important piece of equipment from this flight. Formerly sold as part of the Buzz Aldrin collection in Superior's May 1998 auction.

Additionally, a complete flown Soyuz Control Panel (lot #525) is available for sale. This c. 1980's museum-quality panel is complete with control switches, buttons, digital mission clock, astronavigator, and onboard computer. Overall dimensions are 48"x21"x10". The consignor had a custom Lucite case built which is included.

Other notable items include a flown Meatball patch from GT-12 (lot #89), a flown U.S. flag from Apollo 17 (lot #89), Berkut Spacesuit (lot #529), a Penguin Suit (lot #539), a major group of Shenzou flown covers (lot #615), an Echo I original stamp art (lot #494), Neil Armstrong signed items (lots #136-139), Apollo 11 Crew signed litho (lot #140), and a First Day Cover (lot #142), Award Winning Russian Space Medal Collection (lots #566-583) and much more.

The auction will have a live bidding floor and simulcast bidding on eBay Live Auctions (www.ebayliveauctions.com). Viewing of the lots is available beginning Wednesday, December 17th at Regency-Superior's gallery at 9478 W. Olympic Blvd, 2nd Floor, Beverly Hills, CA 90212. Those who would like detailed lot information may contact the gallery at (310) 553-5475.

The entire auction will be available on Regency-Superior's website beginning Tuesday, November 25th for viewing and bidding at www.RegencySuperior.com. A full color catalog is available to all bidders by calling toll-free 1-800-782-0066.

Good luck with your bidding.
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Peter Kemp
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posted 11-15-2008 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter Kemp   Click Here to Email Peter Kemp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received my Regency-Superior catalogue in the UK this morning. A number of nice items but what a shame the value of the £ against the dollar and euro is so poor compared to this time last year.

Perhaps Gordon and Alastair can sort out the economy before the 19th December!

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Perhaps Gordon and Alastair can sort out the economy before the 19th December!

What's that pink oinking animal sailing across the sky?

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posted 11-26-2008 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice catalog, decent spread of material.. discrepancies noted:

1975 Viking Mars Lander Thruster Nozzle (lot 35) Incomplete thrust chamber, definitely not a flight spare since the MR-50's were delivered by Rocket Research as integrated assemblies. Have a complete example of a MR-50 Viking Reaction Control Thruster which is in an "as delivered" to JPL configuration (scroll down to the second artifact discussed on the page)

1960's Gemini Era Microthruster (lot 69) is listed within the Gemini Program Equipment section but has no relation to any of the early manned programs. Looks to be a cold gas thruster (possibly Skylab TACS) but requires additional work to positively ID.

1990s Flown Shuttle Valve (lot 311) I would be stunned if this regulator was installed let alone flown as part of any man rated system; the fasteners (and it appears the valve itself) are non-aerospace grade - looks GSE to me.

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I am looking at item 144 and I am not sure... what does everybody else think?

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posted 11-28-2008 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1960s Saturn V Fuel Hose & Valves (lot 101) These appear to be for hydraulic/pneumatic application (vice fuel as titled/described). The Flomatics hand cranked valve is GSE (there were no manually operated valves installed on any of the stages); and no apparent provenance that support the position that the balance of items are flight vehicle hardware.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 11-29-2008 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike--Certainly Lot #144 is clearly not genuine. Even the handwriting inscription on the crew photo is not in the hand of any Apollo 11 crew member. Was the lot sold?

Alan Lipkin
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posted 12-01-2008 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alan Lipkin   Click Here to Email Alan Lipkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott & Ken:

Thank you for your comments.

We have pulled Lots # 35, 101, 311 & 144 from the sale & have revised the description of lot # 69. The descriptions of these parts were supplied by the consignor. We mistakenly assumed he was accurate in his descriptions. Our error.

Lot #144 was left in the sale despite mis-givings, since it was from the estate of a protocol officer from NASA. We thought the provenance was enough. Obviously we were wrong & the item has been withdrawn from the sale.

We actually do appreciate your comments and will follow through wherever we can.

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posted 12-01-2008 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for being responsive to forum input Alan. In the case of the hardware, there is no desire to see the lots scuttled; 35, 101, and 311 are still artifacts that collectors may like to acquire. Pursuant to subsequent cooberation of provenance hope they will remain after applicable adjustments to each description for accuracy.

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posted 12-18-2008 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, 137 also looks 'iffy', as does Al Beans signature on lot 177. I've met Al Bean twice and haven't one signature that resembles this one. It doesn't even match any of the others up for auction.

Shame about lot 69, it did interest me. That's the problem with a little knowledge I guess, I could be bidding on washing machine parts for all I know.

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posted 12-18-2008 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doesnt look like any of the lot descriptions have been updated with corrections...

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posted 12-18-2008 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alan Lipkin   Click Here to Email Alan Lipkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LCDR Scott Schneeweis:
Doesnt look like any of the lot descriptions have been updated with corrections...

Scott, We have made all our changes on EBay Live. Unfortunately, our own website has a glitch that makes it "static" like our catalog. This will be remedied in future sales when the "live" aspect will become internal. Ebay going out of the "live" auction business at the end of this month has thrown a temporary monkey wrench into the works. Current descriptions (and withdrawls) are current on EBay live right now. Thanks again for your input.

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posted 12-18-2008 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shuttle Program Equipment High Pressure Pump (lot 314) is a (hydraulic or pneumatically) actuated butterfly valve.

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posted 12-19-2008 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Shepard signatures in group lots 667 and 668 are classic secretarials.

Sorry for the late post but I only just had a chance to look at some of the listings.

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posted 12-19-2008 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a direct link to today's auction on eBay Live Auctions.

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posted 12-19-2008 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceSteve   Click Here to Email SpaceSteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I won two of the three items I was interested in...lots 549 and 550 (Voskhod 1 and 2 KNIGA Covers). I was also after lot 545 (Vostok 1-6 KNIGA covers), but the opening bidder blew everyone away!

I was also shocked and disappointed in the low winnning bid on lot 173 (Apollo 12 crew-signed photo). I won one of these in the October R-S auction for twice the price; and the one today appears to be a better example Someone got an absolute steal on this one!

Steve

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posted 12-19-2008 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also bid on lot 545 but was squashed immediately. My hand itched and wanted to go battle but I would have had to take back some of the x-mas gifts I have for my family

It was a neat auction indeed.

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posted 12-19-2008 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got some incredible bargains, in my mind at least. There were several items I hadn't planned to bid on, but when I saw how low the bidding was, I couldn't resist. I got my 'must have' at a slightly higher price than I had hoped, but I feel it was all worth it in the long run.

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I feel I got some bargains too. This economy seems to be good for buyers who have a bit of cash and are selective on what to buy.

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posted 12-20-2008 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The best bargains, in my opinion. Congrats if anyone got one of these!
  • 111: Anders crew photo - $150
  • 230: Apollo 17 lunar surface checklist - $2000
  • 241: Apollo 17 cover - $100
  • 287: ASTP training checklist - $160
  • 489: 27 items: Swigert, Ron Evans, Jim Irwin, Gene Cernan, etc. - $110
  • 714: Gagarin (long inscription) and Titov - $190

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posted 12-20-2008 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were indeed some bargains. Noticeable how a lot of stuff, especially Skylab, was trading at well under the cost to create these pieces in-person at current show prices.

I was especially pleased with Lot 485 - flown and signed SpaceShipOne photo for $230 plus premium - less than half the price of similarly flown covers.

Paul

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posted 12-20-2008 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for music_space   Click Here to Email music_space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got my long-sought must-have. Item 531, Vostok-Voskhod "astronavigator", or earth-path orbit/deorbit indicator. The same instrument sat in front of Gagarin, Leonov, Tereshkova, Feoktistov, Komarov and other early cosmonauts.

I had missed on a test-article Mercury earth-path orbit indicator back in 2003, but Robert had said to me "Don't worry too much, stuff comes around eventually". So I'm expecting to put a pair of US and Soviet "globes" side by side some day...

I love these because they so obviously come from a spacecraft's instrument panel, and they tie in with the century-old tradition of collecting terrestrial globes.

The item was actually misdescribed in the catalog, identified as a "1980s SOYUZ SPACECRAFT ASTRONAVIGATOR". As I though about calling Regency-Superior to have them correct the mistake, it came to me that this might enhance the desirability of the item, and thus I had a moral issue on my hands...

I sought advice to a member of this panel, who wrote to me:

"The "right" thing in this regard is not black and white. On the one hand, you have identified an error in the catalog and could choose to have it corrected. On the other hand, you are not being paid to correct Regency's errors. Were this an item you weren't interested in buying but saw there was a mistake, would you have tried to have the catalog corrected before the sale for others' benefit?"

My answer to that last question is: Yes, I might very well have done it for other's sake. But after inner wranglings with the question, I decided that as I had educated myself about this market for years, I had the moral right to remain the eventual beneficiary of this knowledge when I needed it. Plus, had I actually increased the value of the item, it is me who in fact would have paid R-S to correct their mistake! So I withheld my piece of information.

Given the fact that these come around so scarcely, and since item 531 came to me at my absolute bidding limit, I have no regrets on this decision.

I'll just have to buy my peace of mind in lending it to the National Watch and Clock Museum for their upcoming Time & Exploration: Earth, Sea & Space exhibition, along with two other items already shipped to them...
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posted 12-20-2008 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cddfspace   Click Here to Email cddfspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have they posted the winning bids yet?

Thanks,
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posted 12-20-2008 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for music_space   Click Here to Email music_space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prices listed? As of Dec. 20th, 5pm, they weren't. I called them earlier today to make sure I had won.

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I won lot. 84: GT10 flown identification plaque (Michael Collins Collection) for $1250.00

This plaque was previously sold for $3250.00 in the Aurora Auction in April 2004.

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I won lot 504 a Tony Levier signed cover for the first flight of Lockheeds F-90 Jet Penetration Fighter. I believe it was actually cancelled on Jun 4 1949 the day after the first flight, but it has a Muroc cancel which seems pretty cool. Plus the F-90 is such sexy jet plane, which is way cool too!

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posted 12-22-2008 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm obviously missing something here: I bid on a couple of items and, at the time I went to bed over here seven hours ago (midnight on the 21st ) the site said the auction had finished and I was top bidder. I get up this morning to find an e-mail saying I was outbid on both. What's that about?

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posted 12-22-2008 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter Kemp   Click Here to Email Peter Kemp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like David Bryant, I got somewhat confused by the bidding process. I placed absentee bids on four items up for auction on the first day some time in advance of the action itself using Regency's own site to save on the commission.

On checking the sales results via eBayLive after the 19th December it appeared I had been outbid by floor bidders on all four although on three of the items my bids were higher than the hammer price realised.

I had thought about taking this up with Regecny to see what I had done wrong as looking at their terms and conditions I believed I should have won.

This morning however I was surprised to also receive an email from Regency confirming that I was in fact the successful high bidder for three out of the four, missing out on just Lot 403 the signed John Glenn, so I'm pleased.

I think my mistake was trying to use the eBayLive site to check the results.I think this just identifies the winner if they have used that service.

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posted 12-22-2008 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And bear in mind that if a floor bidder matches your Ebay absent bid they are deemed to be the winner, because they have the capacity to increase their bid.

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I was outbid on that SR-71 rudder piece, dang it! But I am happy with the two lots I won. Lot 660 is a 1962 Chuck Yeager signed document, a tongue-in-cheek award to the wife of a pilot for putting up with the difficulties of her husband attending the USAF Aerospace Research Pilot School. I prefer vintage material, and this was signed months after he was named commandant of that school. Plus, this is a poignant item because recipient was the wife of Ted Freeman, who of course became one of the Group 3 astronauts the next year but was killed in a plane crash the year after that.

(In 1962, Charles Bassett, Donn Eisele, and David Scott also graduated from that school.)

I also got lot 785, a nice collection of beta cloth patches.

Steve

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posted 12-22-2008 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liebeek   Click Here to Email liebeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won lots 343, 354, 355 and 384 being one signed book for kids (my passion being a teacher and all that, will do good in the classroom), two flown patches and one flown flag.

Very pleased as I mainly try to focus on flown items.

I lost a few other flown items because they went higher than my budget.

Still, a good result.
Ruud

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posted 12-22-2008 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadSci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Item #230 was an absolute STEAL at $2000. That's less than Florian was selling them for originally (~$1500/page). Congratulations to someone! :-)

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Unless I am missing something item #230 was only a single sheet..

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I won Item #35, only to discover post facto the helpful discussions on this Board with regards to it and a small number of other Items in the Auction.

To his credit, Mr. Lipkin responded very reasonably to the concerns raised, pulling/modifiying the items as needed. Somehow in the press of time, #35 wasn't pulled as planned, and as I had only seen the original descriptions, I bid for soemthing I dearly wanted - and won.

Joy turned to sorrow when I found it wasn't quite as I had understood.

I contacted Regency today and Mr. Lipkin called me back promptly. He apologised for the item not having been pulled as intended, and removed the item from my Invoice. No fuss, no problems

I wish it had been otherwise, but I wanted everyone on this Board to know how much I appreciate their input and help. I also wanted you all to know that Mr. Lipkin and Regency have responded in a completely Professional and reasonable fashion.

Best Wishes to all for a Happy Holiday Season!

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Unless I am missing something item #230 was only a single sheet.
Yes, but these have been receiving higher prices since then were originally offered for sale I believe.

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Yep, first prices were below $1000 when I originally offered though the last sold at over $4000 now - particularly after Cernan signed the reminder (he's still doing if presented to him with proper documentation).

So from that point of view - it was a steal! (And still these are some of the best documented flown artifacts I have ever seen.)

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Yep, first prices were below $1000 when I originally offered though the last sold at over $4000 now - particularly after Cernan signed the reminder (he's still doing if presented to him with proper documentation).
Yes, Cernan certainly will sign them. He signed my page at Spacefest.

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posted 12-24-2008 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being new to the live auction scenario, I received an invoice from RS. My shipping is not calculated in there, so I do pay them now and then wait for another invoice with the shipping added or do I wait for the final invoice with all the charges in it? I am a bit confused!

Thanks and please let me know!!

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posted 12-24-2008 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait, they will be sending another invoice that will include shipping, that will be the one to pay.


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