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Topic: Impact of long-duration spaceflight on vision
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spaced out Member Posts: 3110 From: Paris, France Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 02-12-2012 03:15 AM
Read this article CNN.com with interest: Astronaut feels space's toll on his body In the past few years, about half of the astronauts aboard the international space station have developed an increasing pressure inside their heads, an intracranial pressure that reshapes their optic nerve, causing a significant shift in the eyesight of male astronauts. Doctors call it papilledema.Female space travelers have not been affected. Some of the astronauts slowly recover. Others have not. Space station astronauts typically spend about six months in orbit. Barratt is one of 10 male astronauts, all older than 45, who have not recovered. Barratt returned from a six-month stint aboard the station in October 2009 and has experienced a profound change in his sight. He used to be nearsighted. But now, the space veteran says he’s eagle-eyed at long distance but needs glasses for reading. There is no treatment and no answers as to why female space flyers are not affected. I'd not heard of this before and the potential impact on any future mission Mars is pretty profound. Of course there is one simple answer to the problem - an all female crew. |
cycleroadie Member Posts: 452 From: Apalachin, NY USA Registered: May 2011
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posted 02-12-2012 07:20 AM
This has been known about for sometime. If NASA ever wants to send astronauts to Mars, it first must solve a problem that has nothing to do with rockets or radiation exposure.A newly discovered eye condition -- found to erode the vision of some astronauts who've spent months aboard the International Space Station -- has doctors worried that future explorers could go blind by the end of long missions, such as a multi-year trip to Mars. |
issman1 Member Posts: 1042 From: UK Registered: Apr 2005
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posted 02-12-2012 08:30 AM
It appears space agencies have known about this condition for a decade or more.Perhaps inventing an artificial gravity device is the best solution, otherwise a one way trip to Mars may be the only realistic alternative. |
Cozmosis22 Member Posts: 968 From: Texas * Earth Registered: Apr 2011
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posted 02-12-2012 11:07 AM
Simple solution. Since this condition doesn't appear to affect females, perhaps the first astronauts on Mars will be women. Go for it! In the mean time they can try to figure out what exactly is causing this optic issue. |
MarylandSpace Member Posts: 1336 From: Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 02-12-2012 11:09 AM
Two interesting and thought provoking articles.Can you imagine NASA sending astronauts to Mars only to having them become blind before arrival? |
Blackarrow Member Posts: 3118 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 02-12-2012 11:39 AM
Four thoughts occur to me: - Male astronauts going to Mars should not be older than 40 at launch;
- Male astronauts picked for future Mars missions should have completed a long-duration Earth orbital flight to determine if their eyes are affected by this condition;
- I doubt if Michael Barratt is complaining too much if he has been rendered "eagle-eyed" for long-distance viewing. A man of his age should expect to be long-sighted and needing reading glasses. Perhaps this suggests that male astronauts who DON'T need reading glasses should take a precautionary pair to Mars, just in case (assuming the problem hasn't been detected as per (2) above;
- At least one female crew-member should have commanded a space mission and should either take charge, or be trained to be able to take charge, during the re-entry and splashdown phase.
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Jay Chladek Member Posts: 2272 From: Bellevue, NE, USA Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 02-13-2012 02:13 AM
I don't know why CNN is reporting this now as the story broke last September in a couple newspapers (not with this specific astronaut, but it a report did go public). It is believed to have something to do with cerebro-spinal fluid pressure in the upper body as with the changes in fluid distribution in prolonged zero gee, increased inter-ocular pressure (i.e. pressure inside the eyeball) seems to increase.Main thing to keep in mind is although no female astronauts have apparently developed the condition, the ratio of male astronauts to females that have flown 6 month assignments on stations going back to Mir is rather lobsided in favor of the men (Shannon Lucid was the first woman to do a long duration spaceflight on Mir). So just because it hasn't developed in women astronauts sampled doesn't necessarily mean it will not. I would also be curious to know if the Russians have collected any similar data or not, given that they were starting to approach six month tours of duty on Salyut 6 in the early 1980s. So they theoretically should have about 15 more years of data on this than NASA does. |
moorouge Member Posts: 2454 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 02-13-2012 02:27 AM
Isn't this a case of the media being sensationalist once again? Yes, there are problems with the eye, but there are other difficulties for which a medical solution is required before a manned mission to Mars can realistically be contemplated. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42981 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 02-13-2012 11:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by moorouge: Isn't this a case of the media being sensationalist once again?
Not in this case, at least not from what I have heard from those working at Johnson Space Center. Yes, there are other biomedical challenges facing humans flying to Mars, but those are understood to the point that countermeasures are being, if not having already been, developed. This is a problem that is not well understood and for which no countermeasures have been developed as of yet. And it's not just affecting potential future missions to Mars, but crew availability for space station flights now (it was one of the factors that the Astronaut Office used to justify its current 2013 astronaut recruiting effort). That's not to say that weakened bone mass or radiation exposure is not as important a concern, but this is a relatively new issue that needs further study. |
moorouge Member Posts: 2454 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 02-14-2012 02:03 AM
Hardly a new problem. According to Discovery News it was first reported to NASA in 2005.Perhaps NASA should talk to the Navy where vision problems of those serving in nuclear submarines have led to crew members not being allowed to drive for several days when they return to port. Though not quite the same, it does seem likely that there may be related causes as both astronauts and submariners work for long periods in confined spaces. Weightlessness is, of course, an atypical factor but there may well be some common ground for researchers to consider. |
ilbasso Member Posts: 1522 From: Greensboro, NC USA Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 02-14-2012 10:22 AM
It strikes me as interesting that Barratt reported that his distance vision improved but his near vision deteriorated. There's conclusive evidence that children who spend more time outside (looking at more distant objects) have less nearsightedness than children who stay indoors and do not exercise their distance vision. It would seem to me that in the confines of a space station, most of your day is spent looking at things that are in the near to medium distance. So astronauts with long-lasting deterioration of their near vision is counter-intuitive, at least from an eye-training standpoint.I wonder if it has to do with long-term exposure to being in a pressurized atmosphere 24/7. Even if the pressure is being maintained at a constant near-sea-level pressure, there could be a sensitivity to the continual pressurization of the cabin. Or maybe being in an atmosphere where plastics are continuously outgassing affects them? Seems like there are a lot of variables to consider. |
SpaceAholic Member Posts: 4437 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 07-09-2016 05:31 PM
The mysterious syndrome impairing astronauts' sight, from The Washington Post: Visual impairment intracranial pressure syndrome (VIIP) is named for the leading theory to explain it. On Earth, gravity pulls bodily fluids down toward the feet. That doesn't happen in space, and it is thought that extra fluid in the skull increases pressure on the brain and the back of the eye...Here on Earth, the most similar condition is idiopathic intracranial hypertension (IIH). Patients with this condition also have increased pressure in their heads, and they experience visual changes such as those of the astronauts. Another condition, papilledema, involves optic nerve swelling. But they are not perfect models for the astronauts’ disorder. "Idiopathic" means that no one knows what causes it. It comes with a deluge of other symptoms, including nausea, dizziness and severe headaches, that astronauts with VIIP do not experience. And the medication for papilledema, optic-nerve swelling, does not work on astronauts with VIIP. |