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Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-28-2003 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a story circulating the wires right now about a new book, "Why First-Borns Rule the World And Last-Borns Want to Change It" by Michael Grose.

As much I'd love to agree with the author (seeing as though I am a first-born) I noticed an error in his reasoning. Grose says:

"Seventy per cent of US presidents are first-born; every US astronaut has been a male first-born."

Well, setting aside for the moment that there are female astronauts, I wonder what the Kelly twins must think of his study? One of them had to be second-born.

Source: http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7099894%255E421,00.html

derek
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posted 08-28-2003 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for derek   Click Here to Email derek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charlie Duke was born just before his twin brother! Wonder if he ever gets Bill to stand in for him-at non-signing events- on bad days??!

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Scott
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posted 08-28-2003 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If that author really said that about the astronauts, he's a dummy and I wouldn't waste money on his book.

On a similar note, Edgar Mitchell once told me (after I observed at a show that he and Richard Gordon were left-handed) that 40% of the early astronauts were left-handed.

liftoff1
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posted 08-28-2003 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liftoff1   Click Here to Email liftoff1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about the number of astros that were "first-borns"...but I have always been amazed at the number of astros who are "Jrs." The "Mercury 7" alone featured four...Cooper, Glenn, Schirra, and Shepard. And there are many more who followed.

Scott
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posted 08-28-2003 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is true that many of them are first-borns, but not ALL of them. If the author said that he's wrong.

I was curious, not meaning to get too far off the subject, but which astros are left-handed? I have been to a couple of autograph shows but I know many of you have been to a lot more than me and have also had dealings with them.

Here is a list I'll start. Please correct it or add to it as needed:

LEFTY ASTROS:

Edgar Mitchell
Richard Gordon
Charlie Duke

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-29-2003 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the transcript of the NASA Press Conference on the Space Shuttle Columbia with Sean O'Keefe, August 27:

quote:
The last round trip flight of the Columbia in March of 2002 was to the Hubble again to service it, to install new gyros, to install an infrared camera, to upgrade a number of different factors to it that improved its capacity by a factor of 10, according to all the astronomers who observed this, and they are just elated over the quality of what has come back from this. And yet it turned out that the primary human characteristic that was so important on that mission was embodied by a gent who will be joining us here in about a month, or a matter of fact, weeks--I'm losing track of days here--Dr. John Grunsfeld, who will be our Chief Scientist, and relieving Dr. Shannon Lucid, as she goes back to Johnson Space Center, as our Chief Scientist.


He was on that mission. He's an astrophysicist, got all kinds of incredible scientific background. But his primary human characteristic trait that was most valuable proved to be that all the instruments for adjustment on the Hubble telescope are on the left-hand side. So rather than having, like many of us--righties are stuck with the problem or reaching around the front of your face with a catcher's mitt equivalent capacity to adjust things, and a big bubble over year head, trying to see what's going on--his primary human characteristic that was most valuable is he's a lefty. He's now referred to as "the southpaw savant."


But it was a human characteristic that made those adjustments, that made that capacity work in a way that we never imagined possible, and that 10 years ago we were prepared to write off as garbage. And instead today, it's revolutionizing not only the field of astronomy, but also informing all of us as human beings of the origins of this universe, its progression over time. It has changed the way we look at everything. In the last 18 months it has been a remarkable set of discoveries that have emerged from that capability that would never have been possible were it not for human intervention.


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posted 08-29-2003 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wehaveliftoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The '85 astronaut quiz book stated that ALL
Mercury 7 were either first born or only born
& WASP(protestant!)

Carrie
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posted 08-29-2003 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carrie   Click Here to Email Carrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going back to the mention of the Kelly twins, and Charlie Duke being a twin, it got me thinking that Don Pettit's two little boys are twins. I wonder if there are a lot of twins in astronauts' lineage? Not that it has to mean anything, it's just an interesting curiosity.

Carrie

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