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BrianB
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From: Kamloops BC Canada
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posted 04-21-2003 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrianB   Click Here to Email BrianB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, here are a couple of loosely related questions for the group. Without revealing anything too personal, how do you pay for all your stuff? This can be a VERY expensive hobby, and I am sure we have all bought (or been tempted to buy) things when the money wasn't really there. So, what is your method? Extra job, secret life of crime, kid's piggybank, no vacations? The second question is this: do you have any other collecting type hobbies? It has been my experience that most of us insane collector types have more than one interest.

My answers:

1. I own a small manufacturing business, so my collecting expenditures rise and fall as my business sales do.

2. I also collect military flight gear and memorabilia, especially X plane and high altitude stuff. (expensive also!)

I look forward to seeing how others manage.

Rizz
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From: Upcountry, Maui, Hawaii
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posted 04-21-2003 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rizz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have aquired some artifacts and signatures as gifts over the years, working around those types of people.

My funds come from any overflow of business income (I own my own) or unexpected $$$ falling into my lap. {Doesn't happen much anymore}.

Since I'm mostly Apollo and moon related, I have a small and almost complete set of signed 16 x 20's, and some sort of a flown artifact of significance from each moon mission.

Many books that I have aquired are now signed and I have a nice bit of history to share with friends and to pass on to my son.

I collected coins when I was very young, and just started rediscovering those little treasures. I haven't looked at my coin collection in 30 years.

Might be able to cash some in to pay for a ride in a MiG 25.

Rizz

cklofas
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From: Euless,TX USA
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posted 04-22-2003 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cklofas   Click Here to Email cklofas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My other collection is comics. I pay for everything by putting some $ aside each week for "my stuff". I also dont budget using my bonus money so good bonus = opportunity !

derek
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posted 04-22-2003 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for derek   Click Here to Email derek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just don't smoke or drink,the $2000 or so goes instead to items which appreciate in value-unlike empty bottles and cigarette cartons!

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andrewcarson
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From: Liverpool UK
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posted 04-22-2003 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcarson   Click Here to Email andrewcarson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Derek, agree with you about the cigarettes..but cant agree with you about the empty cans..we all have our little vices.

Seriously though when I have to get up to work early shifts at 5.00 AM sometimes the only thought that keeps me going is another day another dollar...to spend on autographs and stuff.

I use my shift payments...do double shifts 16 hours sometimes to pay for lifes little pleasures...

I think life is made easier for us collectors who thru certain dealers are allowed layaway plans for stuff which we sometimes havent got the cash to pay up front for...thats another way of paying for our rather expensive habit...

My other expensive hobby is Fishing....
that can cost a fair few pounds for a good day at the Trout fishery., or on the rivers...none of which are near where I live.

Regards

Andrew

Cliff Lentz
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posted 04-22-2003 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff Lentz   Click Here to Email Cliff Lentz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a healthy sports collection which also can be expensive. I try to save as much as I can on the sports end and apply it to the Space end. How do I pay for it? Two jobs for over fifteen years now!

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posted 04-22-2003 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensclub10@aol.com   Click Here to Email mensclub10@aol.com     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What can I say other than I have had the collecting bug since I was 10 years old (40 years ago). I just can't, as hard as I try , contain myself.

I started with collecting coins, progressed into sports collectables (around the same time I started collecting astronaut autographs, maybe 20 years ago) then it was into historical newspapers with bold headlines (displayed proudly on my walls), then finally into art.

I have sold off most of my sports collectables (I have some beautiful pieces signed by Michael Jordan that I personally got signed by him, for I live a mere 10 minutes from where the Bulls practice, that I won't sell) along with a lot of my coins (I'm keeping my Morgan Dollar collection) and I'm usung the funds to pursue my astronaut colection which I'm addicted to!

That's about it other than I rediscovered my addiction to astronaut autographs about 5 years ago and with the help from Donnis Willis, Farthest Reaches and Aurora Galleries my collection is growing nicely!

Dave

No I don't own any strip joint even though I think that it would make a nice outing for my churchs Men's Club. Yea Right!

nasamad
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From: Essex, UK
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posted 04-22-2003 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to be on emergency callout ever 4th week as part of my job. That overtime tends to give me a few pounds left over to play with at the end of the month as I dont like to include any it in my budget.

Every now and again I save up my overtime money to make a bigger purchase like a rarer autograph or artifact.

Happy collecting........Adam

(I used to collect Jackson 5 / Jacksons / Michael Jackson stuff in my youth. Still got it all in my loft, must get round to ebaying someday and getting more space stuff with the proceeds !)

[This message has been edited by nasamad (edited April 22, 2003).]

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-22-2003 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the subject of secondary collections, I only collect space at present, but in the recent past, I assembled over 5000 items related to the comic strip cat, Garfield. The "Garfield room" -- more of a basement -- was covered in orange and black from floor to ceiling and offered an escape for me while I was battling a particularly harsh four years of a chronic illness. The collection, which included everything from the sunction-cup Garfield car window ornaments to a complete store manager's package for a Garfield-themed McDonald's Happy Meal promotion, now resides in over 20 boxes in my grandparent's attic.

I've been recently considering selling the Garfield collection to help, in part, offset the cost my space collection. Of course I would keep a few choice pieces (including a few personalized items from artist Jim Davis) but I would want the collection to sell as a whole. I have good reason to believe its nearly a complete archive of Garfield merchandise produced between the cat's creation in 1979 and his 20th birthday in 1989.

Any takers?

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Aztecdoug
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From: Huntington Beach
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posted 04-22-2003 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aztecdoug   Click Here to Email Aztecdoug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Collections... I did collect a few coins as a kid. A couple of drum sets as a teen, plus records! Remember vinyl? I went to A LOT of Rock concerts in the 70's and 80's too... geezz name almost any band from the 70's... Art work, I started getting a few Mark King things, a Ron Wood etching. I would love to still add some Ron Wood stuff, I like his stuff. (Makes Alan Bean seem quite affordable on average!) Wine... I got a lot of wine.

Vacations... that's how I pay for my space collection. I have taken my girlfriend, now wife, on a nice vacation every summer for the past several years. That makes her happy so I can buy space stuff. That gets real expensive though! (You wouldn't believe what "Reaching for the Stars" or "Naval Aviation in Space" cost me gross at the end of the day!)

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Warm Regards

Douglas Henry

Enjoy yourself and have fun.... it is only a hobby!

NC Apollo Fan
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posted 04-23-2003 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NC Apollo Fan   Click Here to Email NC Apollo Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose that I fund my collection through tapping into savings from time to time. To be honest, my collection is quite small in terms of the number of items. My autograph collection consists mainly of Alan Bean's In the Beginning and an Apollo photo that has been multi-signed and personalized over the years. Beyond that, I have several flown Apollo artifacts (flags and such).

My other passion for years was Star Wars. I was 7 when the original film was released, and it caught me at just the right age. Since then I have seen the first film alone well over 400 times (or the equivalent of viewing the film 24 hours a day for 33 days!)and have amassed quite a collection. The new films are nice in the sense that they finally tell the story - but I certainly do not see them as equals to the original trilogy. I've received some attention for my interest in Star Wars, from having articles written about me to being asked to be a guest on a national radio show to displaying my collection locally. I've met many of the actors from the films and have visited a few of the filming locations as well. Unlike my Apollo collection, my favorite Star Wars items are the inexpensive ones: trading cards, monthly poster magazines from the first three films, and action figures (loose ones, I'm not much of a "mint-in-the-package" kind of guy). Basically the things that I collect from Star Wars are the things that I had when I was little - it keeps a nice connection open to my childhood.


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sapper82
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posted 04-23-2003 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sapper82   Click Here to Email sapper82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a small strategy called 'goals and opportunities' that I use to grow my collection. If I want to really add a certain piece, say an Apollo crew SP (goal), I'll just start tucking away a little money for it every week and before long I can go shopping. I find this works especially well for more expensive items, and just requires a little self discipline. Otherwise I take advantage of opportunities (e.g. finding something at the flea market) that I could either trade for something I want or sell to put money in the 'goal' pot. The colection grows slowly, but I'm not looking to complete my collection tomorrow anyway.

Otherwise, I look for ways to cut costs. For example, I write book reviews for two locally published journals, and this has essentially eliminated ever having to go and buy a space book ever again. I don't get paid for the reviews but I do get to suggest what gets reviewed and I keep whatever I write a review for. It's a great money saver.

As for other collections, I collect militaria related to engineering, as well as miniatures. I apply the same principles to these hobbies as well.

Cheers,

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Andrew B. Godefroy, MA, FBIS
Ontario, Canada

Jake
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posted 04-23-2003 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jake   Click Here to Email Jake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mean that one is supposed to spend money on things OTHER than space stuff? But when you think of it.... it's ALL related to space stuff! I pay my mortgage, but that is just so I can keep my collection safe and dry. I pay groceries, but that is only so I can stay alive and keep enjoying my collection. I buy beer, but that is only so I can pretend I AM in space.... You get the idea!

Actually, I collect mostly models and artifacts from the first 20 years of U.S. spaceflight - from April 12, 1961 through April 12th 1981. I also collect items from early aviation and the golden era of flight (between WWI and WWII) In my guest bathroom I have my other collection - Elroy Jetson.

To pay for "my habit" is just a matter of priorities. A sailboat does not bear my name, a cabin in the mountains does not belong to me, or fancy trips to Europe take place. At this point in my life, my "second home" or "boat" is my collection of aviation and space artifacts. They take less maintainance as well!

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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)

hinkler
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From: Melbourne, Victoria, AUSTRALIA
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posted 04-24-2003 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hinkler   Click Here to Email hinkler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was lucky enough to start when you could write to Neil Armstrong and get a signed photo for the price of the postage.
At the time I wrote to all of the surviving Mercury, Gemini and Apollo Astronauts and the surviving early cosmonauts. I got replies from about half the Astronauts and ALL of the Cosmonauts.
I had to buy the deceased Astronauts and have managed to do that over a few years.
I guess the highlight was getting a Gagarin autograph from Gherman Titov. He sent it to me as a gift.
As my son gets older my disposable income seems to get smaller. If I had to pay current market prices for my collection I really could not afford it.
I also collect early Australian Aviators such as Bert Hinkler, Harry Hawker, Kingsford Smith and so on.
If anyone know of a Ross Smith autograph for sale, please let me know.
Hopefully my son will enjoy the collection as much as I have.
Regards, Ian from Oz.

Cliff Lentz
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From: Philadelphia, PA USA
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posted 04-24-2003 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff Lentz   Click Here to Email Cliff Lentz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read the fees for the DC show that albatron posted. I think I may have found the cure for my collecting habit! Take a look at Stafford's prices. For me to get an Apollo 10 photo that had previously been signed by John Young signed by Stafford would be $400 ($100 if signed by Cernan)! I guess I decided which item I'm going to have signed or rather which one I won't!

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