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mensax
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posted 04-09-2003 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hindsight is great.

I’ve been reading Deke Slayton’s book and started to ponder how I would have paired up the men who walked on the moon, and which mission I would have assigned them to. Here’s my list.

Apollo 11
Gene Cernan and Alan Bean

Both of these men have been so great at communicating what it was like to walk on the moon. We could all get signed copies of the “First Man on the Moon” at a reasonable price! Alan Bean’s paintings would be hanging in the Smithsonian. And I don’t think Alan would have had a problem with being number two.

Apollo 12
Pete Conrad and Jim Lovell

Talk about a fun duo on the Moon! Pete belonged on this mission. Jim sure deserved to walk on the moon and he did such a fine job repairing A13 that he might have been able to fix that darn TV camera. This just might have helped keep people interested in Apollo a bit longer.

Apollo 13
Charlie Duke and Jim Irwin

With the spiritual power between these two godly men the command module would have never acted up! They would have gone on to land at Frau Maura, and with their youth, would have been able to climb any crater they chose. I imagine that one day the first church to be built on the moon would have been located at this site.

Apollo 14
Alan Shepard and Gordon Cooper

Now this would have been an exciting mission! With A13 having landed at Frau Maura these guys would go on to Hadley. I believe I would have added Gordo at the last minute, much to the surprise of Shepard who in reality bumped Gordo from his chance to moonwalk. I can just see the two of them getting into a brawl deciding who would drive the rover. But, what a joy it would be to see two of the old Mercury guys driving around the most scenic part of the moon! I’m sure Alan would have liked driving more than pulling that cart!

Apollo 15
Buzz Aldrin and Edgar Mitchell

These two guys with their mensan brains would have figured out that the Descartes part of the moon was not worth visiting and would have changed the flight plan and landed in the Tycho crater. Wow, what a trip that would have been!

Apollo 16
Dave Scott and Jack Schmitt

Jack belonged on this mission to Taurus Littrow, just like Conrad belonged on his. Dave Scott would fit in on any mission but maybe by changing to a different mission he wouldn’t have gotten into trouble with those covers.

Apollo 17
John Young and Neil Armstrong

I’d have assigned these two guys to a real challenging mission. Maybe the farside of the moon or one of the polar craters. Two reasons for this decision. For one, if anybody could have done it these guys would have been the ones. Second reason… to get back at them for making it so hard, and expensive, to get their autographs!

Apollo 18
Deke Slayton and Leoniv

Yeah… I figure with these “amended” crews and adventures the public would have demanded more!

Why not take a Russian to the moon rather than just shaking hands with him in orbit? Let Leoniv keep all the rocks he can pick up! First Vodka on the moon!

…With the great success of this mission NASA probably would have gone on and landed a Skylab on the moon as a base instead of an attraction at the Smithsonian…

Apollo 19
Gordon, Bean, and Conrad

These guys always dreamed of going to the surface together. The first group of guys to the new moon base would have no need of a rover so one of these guys would just be strapped to the outside of the LM descent stage during landing. What a trip that would be!

Apollo 20
Walter Cronkite, Arthur C Clarke, and Werner von Braun

Let Werner land the LM... He would have loved it! Strap Walter to the outside and let him give minute by minute coverage. And let Clarke just look out the window and dream up some more novels!

Apollo 21
Me and two of my closest friends.

AND then all the other Apollo astronauts who never got the chance… except Michael Collins, who didn’t really want to walk. He wanted Apollo 8. And that’s where I would have put him!

Noah

Rizz
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posted 04-09-2003 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rizz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is brilliant Noah!

andrewcarson
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posted 04-09-2003 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcarson   Click Here to Email andrewcarson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noah,

I`ll agree with you on that even though your always outbidding me.....on E-bay(Spatial One)

I think your selection for Apollo 17 is an excellent one...

I would have put Buzz Aldrin down as first man on the moon....enough said...

Regards,

Andrew

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posted 04-09-2003 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CPIA   Click Here to Email CPIA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noah,

Apollo 21 is already taken and I have the mission patch to prove it.

But there is always Apollo 22.

Larry

BobbyA
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posted 04-09-2003 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BobbyA   Click Here to Email BobbyA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice work, but who would be the CMPs? Reading Deke! and Leap of Faith made me realize that Gordo was doomed not to walk on the moon. He was the only man to fly Gemini and not be assigned to a prime crew on Apollo. Even if he had been left in the proper rotation he would have gone from the back-up commander of 10 to the commander of 13. And there was nothing he could do to save that ship.
I feel Gordo, Lovell, Haise, and Dick Gordon should have gotten their footsteps on the moon. But, even though they didn't land on the moon, they sure got to do some amazing things.

Ed Krutulis
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posted 04-10-2003 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed Krutulis   Click Here to Email Ed Krutulis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noah,

Your Apollo 14 crew choice would have been priceless.

Imagine Gordo Cooper messin with the Rover's "Gear Ratios" just as he did on Shepard's Vette.

Schirra would have stuck around NASA just to see that Gotcha!!!

LOL

ED

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posted 04-10-2003 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Madon_space   Click Here to Email Madon_space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great read noah
ROB

Joe Davies
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posted 04-10-2003 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Davies   Click Here to Email Joe Davies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As Noah says, hindsight is great. There were so many competent Apollo era astronauts that in reality most of them could have successfully accomplished any of the moon mission roles. So hindsight must include how they have reacted to their stardom in the years following their missions. Pesonally, I think some of them have done a tremendous job in promoting space and giving of themselves to an admiring public, some have handled it less well, and it even be debated that at least one has squandered the opportunity to unfluence the space program in a positive way.

So my hindsight choice for the crew of Apollo 11 is:-
CDR John Glenn
LMP Gene Cernan
CMP Pete Conrad

Joe

Matt T
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posted 04-10-2003 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Matt T   Click Here to Email Matt T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great topic, but where's Rusty Schweickart in the ammended missions? The guy deserved that moon walk for a couple of reasons.

First, he was unfairly robbed. Had he not been grounded Deke's rotation gave him a great shot at going to the moon. He did the right thing by 'going public' with his space sickness, but I think NASA over-reacted. Although we still lack a first-hand book about what went on up there I've never heard it suggested that he compromised the mission.

Secondly he's an intellectually curious, funny, expressive guy who talks about the human experience of space flight better than almost any other Apollo astronaut I've heard. His description at the Reno reunion of gazing at the earth when he was '"unemployed in space" for five minutes truly bought the moment to life for me.
I wonder what stories he would have bought back from the moon?

So if we're deep in the daydream world I'd like to pair up the two men who expressed the wonder of walking in space best and send them to walk on the moon.

Apollo 15 and a half - Ed White and Rusty Schweickart. Anywhere with a good view.

Cheers,
Matt

Cliff Lentz
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posted 04-10-2003 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff Lentz   Click Here to Email Cliff Lentz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Apollo 19! That crew talked a lot about all three of them walking on the Moon. Al Bean even did a painting of the three of them on the surface. It would have been nice!

John K. Rochester
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posted 04-10-2003 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John K. Rochester   Click Here to Email John K. Rochester     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st two moonwalkers, Alan Shepard and Yuri Gagarin.. as true pioneers they deserved the honor.. ( and bring Laika along as well)

bruce
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posted 04-10-2003 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bruce   Click Here to Email bruce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope Tom Hanks is reading this post!

Best,
Bruce

desirina
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posted 04-10-2003 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for desirina   Click Here to Email desirina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noah, I really got a chuckle out of your Apollo 20 selection. How great would that have been?! Thank you for sharing this with us.

Desiree.

WAWalsh
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posted 04-10-2003 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WAWalsh   Click Here to Email WAWalsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rusty would team up with Edgar and Buzz on Apollo 15 as the CMP. Rather than having an all Air Force team, this would be an all MIT team. Would make it more of an all geek team.

mensax
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posted 04-11-2003 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks one and all for your kind remarks. I wasn't sure if I was going to get stoned or patted on the back for this crazy posting!

I've never heard or read anything from Ed White and Rusty Schweickart about their experiences in space. Anyone know where I can access these comments?

Noah

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