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Philip
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posted 12-07-2020 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do we know if the Heat Flow Experiment onboard Apollo 14 command module "Kitty Hawk" and onboard Apollo 17 command module "America" were exactly the same set-up? In other words, exact same hardware flown twice?

Jim Behling
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posted 12-07-2020 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you asking whether the same actual hardware flew twice or a duplicate set flew on the second mission?

SpaceAholic
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posted 12-07-2020 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the same (repurposed) hardware I don't know but the configuration was not identical, the overlay for displaying radial measurements was modified from four 90 degree quadrants to eight 45 degree sectors (presumably to increase reading accuracy).

Jim Behling
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posted 12-07-2020 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Philip:
...exact same hardware flown twice?
They would not have returned the hardware to Earth to be reused. Not enough room for such.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-07-2020 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Heat Flow and Convection Demonstration hardware was conducted aboard the command module and according to the Catalog of Apollo Experiment Operations was returned to Earth by both missions.

Ron Evans retained hardware from the Apollo 17 experiment (in addition to the Omega Speedmaster he used as a timing device) among his mementos.

The experiment catalog notes the differences between the Apollo 14 and Apollo 17 packages and implies they used different hardware: "Some changes were made from the A-14 model to this [A-17] unit..."

Comparing photos of the two, there appears to be some minor layout differences (a better image of the Apollo 14 experiment would help):

SpaceAholic
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posted 12-07-2020 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both were returned (integrated into the CM).

Here is Kitty Hawk DAC footage of the experiment:

Jim Behling
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posted 12-08-2020 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I thought it was the lunar heat flow experiment.

garymilgrom
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posted 12-08-2020 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too Jim.

Dietrich
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posted 12-11-2020 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dietrich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The same photo of the Apollo 14 experiment can be found in better resolution in NASA TM-X 64735 "Heat Flow and Convection Demonstration (Apollo 14)", available on the NASA Technical Report Server, Figure 1 page 7.

Philip
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posted 12-11-2020 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the superb and interesting replies.
It looks like the A14 Kitty Hawk HFE didn't come with an Omega Speedmaster...

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