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Skytrotter
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posted 05-08-2015 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skytrotter   Click Here to Email Skytrotter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last year, I did some work at the South Carolina State Museum. On display in the lobby of their new planetarium they had on display Charlie Duke's flown LEVA (Lunar Extravehicular Visor Assembly). I noticed a strange sticker on top of the LEVA that said "TOOL!"

Today, I examined a photo of Duke on the edge of Plum crater and I see a dark spot that I assume is the same sticker.

I have no idea what the meaning of this sticker. Was it some kind of inside joke or something more? Any ideas?

LM-12
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posted 05-08-2015 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After helping John Young don his LEVA during the EVA-1 preparations, Charlie Duke seems to refer to his own LEVA as a tool in the Apollo 16 Lunar Surface Journal at 118:39:46 GET.

The tool carrier harness on the PLSS had quick-release straps that were attached to the left and right sides of the LEVA helmets with velcro. Perhaps the sticker has something to do with that.

Skytrotter
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posted 05-11-2015 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skytrotter   Click Here to Email Skytrotter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have found another photo of Duke showing the sticker on the LEVA more clearly. This is a crop from AS16-116-18718.

I have not seen any other stickers like this after examining photos of other LMP LEVAs.

Captain Apollo
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posted 05-18-2015 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Captain Apollo   Click Here to Email Captain Apollo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I emailed General Duke about this. His reply was "It was an inside joke. Long forgotten."

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posted 05-20-2015 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Captain Apollo   Click Here to Email Captain Apollo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if it was a reminder about the tool harness? Had it been a problem in training perhaps? Intriguingly Duke even says tool (not tool harness) at 118:39:46 below in the LEVA donning sequence (I think it is the LEVA he has picked up at that point.) Taken from the Lunar Surface Journal.
118:39:35 Young: Okay. (Pause)

118:39:39 Duke: (To himself) Get it down in back. It is (and it's) Velcroed (in place).

118:39:42 Young: Okay.

118:39:46 Duke: Okay, the old long arms, here, will get mine out. (Pause) This tool (harness?).

118:39:50 Young: All righty. (Pause) Almost got it, Charlie.

118:40:04 Duke: Okay. Sorry. You're a little top-heavy with this PLSS, aren't you?

118:40:11 Young: Not really. I feel a little bit... (Long Pause) There, you got it.

118:40:34 Duke: (Not finished) Hang on. (Pause)

118:40:38 Young: Okay, can I turn around?

118:40:40 Duke: Okay.

[Evidently, John had turned to face his circuit breaker panel so that Charlie could secure his LEVA in the back.]

118:40:42 Young: (Garbled) turned around. (Pause)

118:40:46 Duke: Oh. Man, is that (LM LCG) water cold! Whoo, whoo!

118:40:48 Young: Feels good doesn't it?

118:40:49 Duke: Mm-hmm! Okay, can you get my tool harness straps?

Captain Apollo
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posted 05-20-2015 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Captain Apollo   Click Here to Email Captain Apollo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And just as intriguingly on the Apollo 16 EVA prep card, "Install PLSS Tool Harness" is officially crossed out.

carmelo
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posted 05-20-2015 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carmelo   Click Here to Email carmelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Apollo:
His reply was "It was an inside joke. Long forgotten."
Strange that have not said more. Which inside jokes?

Space Cadet Carl
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posted 05-21-2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Cadet Carl   Click Here to Email Space Cadet Carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great discussion. I previously thought only Lovell had managed to customize his LEVA. This thread makes me wish Conrad and Bean would have successfully pulled off all of the silly posed photos they planned for Apollo 12 like wearing "propeller beenie caps" over their LEVA's and the Hasselblad timer shots that never happened.

Captain Apollo
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posted 05-21-2015 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Captain Apollo   Click Here to Email Captain Apollo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by carmelo:
Which inside jokes?
Don't know. Perhaps resulting from Duke or Young repeatedly forgetting to attach the tool carrier strap in their training? The exclamation point is interesting - not Tool but Tool!

Skytrotter
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posted 06-07-2015 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skytrotter   Click Here to Email Skytrotter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for everyone's opinions on what that sticker means. Some interesting ideas.

It would be nice to know exactly what the inside joke was. Either Charlie Duke has forgotten or he just doesn't want to share.

mark plas
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posted 09-30-2015 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Duke's LEVA is now on a terrible replica, and it looks like someone removed the Tool sticker if you compare these two pics: 1 | 2.

JasonB
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posted 10-02-2015 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Calling someone a tool can have some rather dirty meanings. I'm not saying this is the case but it could be that this was a joke no one is in a hurry to share.

On another note, how in the world does anyone allow a sticker to be removed from the LEVA like that? It seems ridiculous that was allowed to happen. Also where is the sticker now?

Panther494
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posted 10-02-2015 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panther494   Click Here to Email Panther494     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out eBay in a few weeks.

Seriously though, that is terrible, how could this have happened? Yes it's only a sticker but it's tampering with history and heritage. Makes me wonder what else has been lost, removed, broken or stolen!

Skytrotter
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posted 07-20-2016 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skytrotter   Click Here to Email Skytrotter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to worry. As of last week the TOOL! sticker is still on the LEVA at the South Carolina State Museum.

So it was never removed.

I would still like to know the true meaning behind this sticker.

Charlie16
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posted 07-20-2016 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlie16   Click Here to Email Charlie16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Email received from Charlie Duke now:
It was a joke from the back up crew: Haise and Mitchell, but don't remember the joke.

Skytrotter
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posted 07-20-2016 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skytrotter   Click Here to Email Skytrotter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if Haise remembers the joke?

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