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cv1701
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posted 10-19-2012 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cv1701     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was going through some of the in-capsule mission photography from the Apollo flights when something I saw from 13 made me remember something. In the LIFE magazine interview after the flight, Lovell had said, "Fred and I even put on our heavy lunar boots [because of the cold]. Jack didn't have any, so he put on extra longjohns."

It wasn't until I looked at the unprocessed version of AS13_AS13-62-8988 that I realized that there was actually a photo showing this. Almost lost in the darkness, you can see the blue soles of Lovell's boots:

One thing that I've always wondered... did the boots make the trip home? We know that Lovell's EVA visor and gloves made it back, in his possession, and are now loaned to the Alder Planetarium in Chicago. But I've never heard anything about either Haise's or Lovell's boots. The only lunar boots that I know made it back were Cernan and Schmitt's 17 boots, now in the custody of National Air and Space Museum.

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posted 10-20-2012 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that there was every chance that they did. If I remember correctly, didn't they have to load the CM with extra items that might have been discarded to compensate for the missing lunar rocks?

Peter downunder
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posted 10-20-2012 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter downunder   Click Here to Email Peter downunder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now, is that simply a movie MacGuffin, or did the astronauts really need to add extra ballast to the command module? Great pick on the photo, by the way.

LM-12
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posted 10-20-2012 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ALSJ mentions the lunar boots in that image, but they have the photo descriptions for 8491 and 8988 reversed.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-20-2012 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The movie combined two issues to form one plot point: the shallowing of the trajectory and the guidance computer being pre-programmed to expect an additional hundred pounds or so of moon rock to be aboard Odyssey at the time of reentry.

The earlier had in fact been caused by "wisps of steam wafting from the cooling system" on Aquarius (per "Lost Moon"), though that wasn't figured out until after Odyssey had safely returned to Earth.

The latter was addressed by having the crew move equipment from Aquarius to Odyssey, but it wasn't done in a haphazard way as shown in the movie. A revised entry stowage list was called up to the crew.

"All right, we want you to carry over the two 70 millimeter Hasselblad cameras, the black and white TV camera, all 16 millimeter and 70 millimeter exposed film, the LEM data recorder, extra oxygen hoses, extra oxygen screen caps, the waste management system, chute and the LEM flight data file."
Also, per "Lost Moon," Lovell and Haise retrieved a souvenir each before exiting Aquarius a final time: Haise grabbed the equipment netting, and Lovell unscrewed the optical sight and pocketed it.

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posted 10-20-2012 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cv1701     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At some point, Lovell and Haise also cut off pieces of their PLSS backpacks:

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