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rgarner
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From: Shepperton, United Kingdom
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posted 08-05-2021 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OPINIONS NEEDED: I am currently planning The Space Collective's next payload to launch up to the International Space Station for 2022.

With NASA increasing the flight price by a factor of 10 since my last payload, I now need to very carefully consider what to send up because if the contents of said payload don't sell, there simply won't be another and nobody wants that!

So there needs to be a very honest discussion about what to send up and the price of said artifacts — something that should be easy here. I also like the idea of a community consensus on what we should be sending up.

IDEA: What do you all think about flown quote cards printed on vellum like the ones Rusty Schweickart flew on Apollo 9?

The price of each piece would be $300-350 and they would measure 7.4cm x 10.5cm.

  1. Would you buy one?
  2. Would you pay this price?
  3. If yes, what quotes would you like?
  4. If no, what else would you like to send?
Please bear in mind that it can't be anything as heavy as a pin or embroidered patch (difficult, I know).

(I know everyone wants me to do name patches again, but with NASA's new prices a name patch would be in excess of $1000 and I don't think anyone will pay that.)

328KF
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posted 08-05-2021 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the price update and the solicitation for ideas. As a previous customer, I’d have to say the quote cards would not be something I would probably be interested in. That’s not to say that I would be in for a different item.

I know the logistics would be difficult, but I’ve always hoped you could pull off flying personal items (within the same size, weight, and other requirements for flown materials) that customers send in. College flags, cards, photos, maybe even beta cloth patches, etc.

It’s amazing what you have been able to offer so far, and I’m in that group that wishes I had gone for the name tag too!

MCroft04
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From: Smithfield, Me, USA
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posted 08-05-2021 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No surprise, I had the same thoughts as John (328KF). I am very happy with the items I have purchased from you and would like to purchase more.

Ianhetho
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From: Bogangar NSW Australia
Registered: May 2018

posted 08-05-2021 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ianhetho   Click Here to Email Ianhetho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What, ten times the price?

rgarner
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posted 08-06-2021 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the words of encouragement, it means a lot.
quote:
Originally posted by 328KF:
...hoped you could pull off flying personal items
The issue here is that NASA must sign off on every article of flight, and they're only going to do so much. This is what makes personal items so difficult. Regardless, I am in talks with them about this very topic — we'll see what comes of it.
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Originally posted by Ianhetho:
What, ten times the price?
Actually closer to an x7 increase but it is still one heck of an increase. NASA was always cognizant that an increase was going to happen eventually, and that is exactly what happened (with no warning to anyone, even the payload providers).

The politics of that aside, it is what it is and now we need to find suitable articles for flight that are light enough to fly (we pay by the gram) and that people actually want to own.

This means no metals and the like. So the pins I sent up previously, for instance, are no longer possible.

The good news is that in the time since the increase, I have managed to rework the entire "ground process" in order to account for a portion of that — the end result is simply that the article weight is severely limited (it was that or nothing).

cosmos-walter
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posted 08-08-2021 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For less than half the amount you can get a nice space cover which has a postmark of the Russian segment of the ISS and signatures of a few astronauts and cosmonauts.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-08-2021 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Roscosmos has said that its cosmonauts are forbidden from using the ISS cancel device to mark anything they know will be sold, and NASA astronauts are prohibited by federal law from signing any item they know is going directly for sale.

That doesn't mean it doesn't happen — we know it does — but it is of questionable validity.

Richard's items have no such issues and are flown and sold with the full knowledge of NASA and the international partners.

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