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Topic: 302875009857: Shuttle Carbon Carbon display
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Lunar rock nut
Member Posts: 911
From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 09-09-2018 07:11 AM
   
Within this listing for a space shuttle Reinforced Carbon-Carbon leading edge sample display the seller offers international shipping. Does this item fall within ITAR restrictions? |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-09-2018 07:51 AM
Yes, RCC falls under the same ITAR provision as space shuttle thermal tiles. |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4167
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-09-2018 12:26 PM
Small "souvenir" samples of shuttle tile have been available for many years and it is my understanding that they are exempt from the ITAR rules: they can be bought in gift shops after all.Would such a small sample of carbon carbon not fall in to the same category? |
nasamad
Member Posts: 2121
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 09-09-2018 03:01 PM
Whoever made it needs to get a dictionary as well as an ITAR exemption.  |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-09-2018 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Rick Mulheirn:
...they are exempt
Size is not a factor. The samples that have been legal for export (and sold in gift shops, for example) are exempt from ITAR because they are tile-like, but not produced for the space shuttle program (or in the case of the 1977 fragments of white tile, they are production samples before the shuttle tile design spec was completed).Some lucite embedded samples have received waivers from the State Department, but that requires the services of an attorney to negotiate the red tape. |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4167
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-09-2018 06:13 PM
Thank you for the clarification Robert. |
Lunar rock nut
Member Posts: 911
From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 09-30-2018 08:24 AM
Three weeks later and this item has been relisted with a disclaimer relating to ITAR regulations. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-30-2018 11:13 AM
Just to clarify, it is not a relisting. It is a different presentation with a smaller base. |
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