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Topic: Astronaut signed photos on Marktplaats
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apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1447
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 03-31-2018 04:34 AM
   
Can someone say of this is real signed photos? |
Chuckster01
Member Posts: 873
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 03-31-2018 05:10 AM
If the photos on this site are not authentic they are the work of a skilled forger. They look good to me. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 03-31-2018 05:42 AM
These make me very nervous indeed. All on matching apparently modern 20x15cm prints, including some very rare signed images...Maybe I'm being paranoid but my first impression is that they're probably all fakes. If you look at the enlarged images there's noticeable wobbling/hesitation in the loop which in real signatures would be the smoothest parts of a signature. I'd be happy to be over ruled by someone with more expertise but I wouldn't go near these personally. |
Mike Dixon
Member Posts: 1397
From: Kew, Victoria, Australia
Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-31-2018 05:43 AM
No way on my opinion. The Armstrongs are a joke for starters. |
Panther494
Member Posts: 402
From: London UK
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted 03-31-2018 07:54 AM
I agree with all the concerns above. I would steer clear. |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 03-31-2018 08:23 AM
These are all terrible fakes.Look closely and you will see unusual "chugging" effect in the "signatures." In my opinion, these were signed by a machine. The chugging effect is plainly evident on the Apollo 11 piece. |
fredtrav
Member Posts: 1673
From: Birmingham AL
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 03-31-2018 10:11 AM
So Steve, is it possible that they now have autopen machines that can scan and copy from a real signed photo or litho and "sign" another piece with the same signature? |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 03-31-2018 11:10 AM
It's not just possible, it is certainly happening and has been for a while. Crooks have been using unauthorized Autopens and plotters to create forgeries. Often they will use an authentic signature for the template. These examples appear especially crude. Perhaps some sort of stencil or they don't know how to properly use the machine. |
Chuckster01
Member Posts: 873
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 03-31-2018 05:22 PM
If you are a fan of the Simpson you will understand "D'oh!" |
apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1447
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 04-01-2018 12:30 PM
Thank you for the information!!! |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 2914
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-01-2018 12:57 PM
By all means stay away from all of them that I seen. Many are way off from known characteristics and note "the size" of the signatures as they all seem to be from the same hand/machine. Most are really bad in my opinion even though the forger is trying to duplicate the signature patterns, but no cigar! |
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