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Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-19-2018 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone please help with identifying the cosmonaut autographs on this Apollo-Soyuz Test Project lithograph?

Ken Havekotte
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posted 03-19-2018 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you sure they're cosmonauts as I don't recognize any of them from the groups
(maybe later selected cosmonauts within the last few years or so)?

I have seen, though, signatures on ASTP lithos like this of several Soviet working team members (non-flight personnel) that visited JSC in 1974-75 as part of the Russian joint flight delegation.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-19-2018 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't recognize the signatures either, hence the request for assistance.

The owner was gifted the litho without information as to whom it was who signed.

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posted 03-19-2018 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, how many autographs are on the photo? I tried to enlarge the signatures but cannot tell. A higher resolution scan would be helpful. They may be part of the backup crews.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-19-2018 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I count at least eight autographs. I have asked the litho's owner to share a higher resolution scan.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 03-19-2018 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While checking through hundreds of signed ASTP covers, and long and behold, I did come across a jointly signed cover with at least three (maybe four) of possibly leading Russian space engineers on the litho. Two of the signatures on the litho appear at the top of my signed cover, both columns, with one at the bottom, second up.

SpaceSteve
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posted 03-19-2018 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceSteve   Click Here to Email SpaceSteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The one on the bottom appears to be Valeri Kubasov. It's a match to the example in Sanabria's Cosmonaut Autographs Identification Guide.

My apologies. I see now that there are actually two signatures at the bottom-right, and neither one is Kubasov.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 03-19-2018 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not seeing a Kubasov autograph at the bottom of the litho, however, I am not able to see or make out clearly any signature patterns toward the bottom-left of the photo.

But at least three, and maybe four, of the signers on the litho are of a Soviet ASTP leading space engineers' delegation that visited JSC in 1974.

In my opinion, and from what I can see, none of the signatures on the litho are of any ASTP cosmonaut backup or support crewmen, however, the USSR did not select any "support crewman" for ASTP as they were all identified as Crews 1 through 4 consisting of paired cosmonaut "flight worthy" teams.

Crew 1 was the prime with Leonov and Kubasov with Crews 2-4 serving as backup crewmen (8 total). The first or main backup crew was Anatoli Filipchenko and Nikolai Rukavishnikov with four other cosmonauts that had been assigned to the joint manned spaceflight project in 1973.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-20-2018 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Via the owner, here are enlargements of the signatures:

Bob M
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posted 03-20-2018 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob M   Click Here to Email Bob M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Ken that they are not cosmonaut signatures — at least none who have flown — and are probably signatures from some of the delegation of Soviet space engineers involved in ASTP planning.

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