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Topic: Donn Eisele autograph: autopen or real?
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Dirk
Member Posts: 933
From: Belgium
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 09-10-2017 03:36 PM
   
I can not find an autopen match for this Donn Eisele autograph. What to think? |
Mike_The_First
Member Posts: 436
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 09-11-2017 06:43 AM
It looks fine to me — is there any reason to believe it's an autopen or are you just making sure? |
Dirk
Member Posts: 933
From: Belgium
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 09-11-2017 09:43 AM
Just wondering because I can't find an autopen match and it was for sale for $70. |
Spacepsycho
Member Posts: 818
From: Huntington Beach, Calif.
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 09-12-2017 03:50 PM
Dirk, I'd be wary of the photo, the style and lack of contrast looks like a preprinted signature. There are several of these on eBay for $3.45 and they're obvious preprinted autographs.I would email the seller, ask for a super closeup of the autograph in order to see if there is pixelation, that would prove it's a preprint. Also ask the seller to take a closeup picture of the autograph at a 45 to 70 degree angle so you can see any depression from the pen in the photo. |
Mike_The_First
Member Posts: 436
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 09-13-2017 05:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Spacepsycho:
I would email the seller, ask for a super closeup of the autograph in order to see if there is pixelation, that would prove it's a preprint.
I have to disagree with the "open/shut" nature of that assertion. The nature of pixelation of the signature in a scan/image would depend on a number of factors, not all of which are related to the actual signature on the actual picture. If you're holding in your hand and the signature is pixelated, that's proof. But judging from a scan/image will be far less reliable. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it's not reliable at all. I can show you closeups of pixelated signatures from definitely authentic pictures in my collection — all it means is that the closeup wasn't supported by the resolution of the scan. I can also show you closeups of preprinted signatures from my collection that were made so well that they don't pixelate until long after the picture itself does (and past the point that the scanner's resolution supports — rendering them indistinguishable from the authentic examples). Unless the preprint is very low quality, requesting extreme closeups from the seller won't tell you anything more than how good of a scanner they use. |
Dirk
Member Posts: 933
From: Belgium
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 09-16-2017 05:09 PM
Think this is an unknown autopen, would like to see the same autopens, as I never found a match. |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 09-25-2017 05:05 PM
Is this the same item that is shown at the top of the thread? Or is this a different item?Looking at the close-up scan, I am not seeing the telltale evidence of an autopen. There appears to variations in line weight and thickness, which you wouldn't expect in an autopen. |
Dirk
Member Posts: 933
From: Belgium
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 09-27-2017 03:55 PM
It is indeed a close up of the signature of the photo above. |
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