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Topic: 111998827590: Neil Armstrong signed guest check
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fredtrav Member Posts: 1673 From: Birmingham AL Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 05-21-2016 10:59 AM
I just saw this Neil Armstrong signed guest check on eBay. To me it looks terrible, but it has a JSA authentication letter. Just curious what others think. Not going to buy it anyway, just thought it was very bad. |
randy Member Posts: 2176 From: West Jordan, Utah USA Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 05-21-2016 12:05 PM
Terrible! |
JasonIUP Member Posts: 282 From: PA Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 05-21-2016 12:16 PM
"Neil" looks okay, and, at a glance, the rest looks pretty close to the checks he signed. Spence probably got this one right. |
jonspace Member Posts: 169 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 05-21-2016 05:46 PM
Really? Can you post some examples of correct ones that look like this? I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely curious because I've never seen a Neil autograph like this. |
JasonIUP Member Posts: 282 From: PA Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 05-21-2016 06:01 PM
One way to do it is to search RR's past auctions for "Neil Armstrong." Then, organize the results by format; look on the second page for checks. |
stsmithva Member Posts: 1933 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 05-21-2016 06:09 PM
It does look like the form of his signature he used on checks. But I'd be very surprised if he used that form for a quick autograph. He never did that. |
fredtrav Member Posts: 1673 From: Birmingham AL Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 05-21-2016 06:10 PM
If you do a simple google search of Neil Armstrong signed check, then look at the images, none are even close. |
stsmithva Member Posts: 1933 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 05-21-2016 06:22 PM
I think someone saw images of an Armstrong check (or something else with that more official form) and forged it as a quick autograph. We've seen something similar before: Apollo 11 items that were "signed" with the style he used in his X-15/just selected for Group 2 days of the early 60's. |
Steve Zarelli Member Posts: 731 From: Upstate New York, USA Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 05-22-2016 01:26 PM
This is an unusual example in that it features the "autographing" style "Neil," yet a formal signature style script last name. Armstrong used the formal style throughout his life on business documents, checks, delivery receipts, flight logs, etc.Note that the entire signature was signed smoothly and quickly with no signs of hesitation. You can see light "trails" where the pencil moved quickly from one section of the autograph to the next. Further, the last name is one continuous line with no breaks. Do you know how difficult it would be to smoothly forge a continuous full name Armstrong and have it look perfect? Only an extremely skilled forger could accomplish this. By the way... the "Neil" looks perfect. The pressure points and subtle traits throughout scream "authentic." So, looking at the whole picture, you would have to believe an extremely skilled forger is plying his trade on a single stained restaurant receipt (when he could be doing signed photos and making a mint), or it is authentic. In full disclosure, JSA sent this to me for my opinion in 2012 when it was submitted. My opinion now is the same as it was then - I think it's authentic and I'd be shocked if it wasn't. The questioned receipt is on the top, verified exemplars are below. |
fredtrav Member Posts: 1673 From: Birmingham AL Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 05-22-2016 04:45 PM
Thanks Steve. It is very unusual as you say in that it has his typical Neil when signing autographs as his first name while using his more formal style for checks for the last name. Can not figure out why he would change styles in the middle of writing on a restaurant check.But if you say it is genuine, it is good enough for me. |
Wehaveliftoff Member Posts: 2343 From: Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 05-26-2016 06:55 PM
It doesn't say how much the "bar tab" was. Truly wonder how much, and way back then Neil having a "freebie" just doesn't sound like the reputation so many admirers try and paint a picture of him through the years. |