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BMckay
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posted 08-30-2015 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BMckay   Click Here to Email BMckay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If someone was to go to an autograph show and wait in line for an autograph, how much does someone charge for that? What is a fair price per item to do this as a service for people?

Ken Havekotte
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posted 08-30-2015 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't quite understand the question here, When it comes to "wait in line for an autograph" and what would be a "fair price per item to do as a service to people." Do you mean from an autograph seeker's time by waiting in line or for someone else to acquire an autograph for another person as a service fee?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-30-2015 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe Bryan means as a proxy or absentee service. I've edited the subject line to help clarify.

stsmithva
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posted 08-30-2015 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ideally, collectors can just help each other for the pleasure of it. When I attended my first (and so far only, darn it) ASF show in 2008, I brought three things that people from three different countries had sent after asking on cS if anyone could get them signed. I just asked for postage $. At a later ASF show, a wonderful cS member got several things signed for me, and I sent him (without him asking) a 20" square print of a photo he liked, and lunch was on me.

HOWEVER, I recognize that caring for an item, waiting in line, getting it signed exactly to specifications, keeping it unsmeared and safe for the rest of the event (especially if it's large), packing it for safe mailing, and going to the post office add up to a lot of time and work. I'd have no problem, if a fellow collector isn't available to do it as a favor, with paying $25 per different item and signer, plus postage. Maybe even a bit more if it's a large item at a crowded venue. (If I was getting three similar items signed by the same signer, I'd expect a bit of a discount.)

18blue78
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posted 08-30-2015 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 18blue78     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I was attending an event that another collector couldn't get to I'd offer to do this as a free favour, subject to postage and any applicable autograph fees. And as long as it didn't impede on me being able to get want I want i.e. one item per person.

If it's as a business venture I believe Autographica in the UK offers a proxy service at £5 per item plus autograph fee and postage.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 09-04-2015 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A museum said they would get me two Shuttle astronaut autographs for a $175 donation. I passed.

albatron
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posted 09-04-2015 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for albatron   Click Here to Email albatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've done it many times as a favor, but would never ask anyone else to do it as such. I always offer something in return. If they wish to decline payment etc then that's wonderful. I still, at the least, pay expenses.

It also depends on the venue, etc. If it's stuff I'm already getting done no big deal, what's throwing in a few items with my stuff? That to me should be a freebie but again, not what I'd ask someone to do as such.

That being said, as the person doing the favor, you do assume responsibility for not losing the items (I very nearly did that once) and securely packaging for the return. Packaging is no big deal for me, as I do it constantly and have it down to a science.

However, I have also suffered from the "no good deed goes unpunished" syndrome also.

So it's a tricky proposition all around.

Steve Gruber does it at Spacefest, his fees are very reasonable, and he's top notch. Hopefully he'll weigh in.

There's no way, with the number of items he handles, he could or should be asked, to do it for free. He's got it down to a science and we assist with places to store the items safely so he doesn't have to lug a wheelbarrow around.

As for a small gig and you asked me to get some items done where its a pay event? Shipping fees, and let's just say, an "honorarium."

fredtrav
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posted 09-05-2015 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I regularly help overseas cSpacers get items that sellers will not ship overseas. A few items from eBay, books done at signings etc. I do not charge to do this, other than postage,just like to help out. That being said, if you ask someone to stand in line specifically to get something for you and they are not getting items for themselves, that person should at least be given a gratuity or fee. If I ask a museum to get me an item signed from a guest, I will make a donation.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 09-05-2015 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by albatron:
That being said, as the person doing the favor, you do assume responsibility for not losing the items (I very nearly did that once) and securely packaging for the return. Packaging is no big deal for me, as I do it constantly and have it down to a science.
I respectfully differ. I want to make it easy for the person doing me the favor, and usually include an addressed, postage-paid mailer (and even throw in a roll of packaging tape!)

I'll add that if the person doing you the favor is going to an event where there's an entrance fee, you should also pay their admission. Or at least a good portion of it.

JasonB
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posted 09-05-2015 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've done this for several people over the past few years at the ASF show for varying degrees of compensation and it helped me have a more pleasant exchange with astronauts I wouldn't have otherwise gotten than simply asking for a photo and not buying an autograph.

That being said the risk involved in carrying around thousands of dollars of other people's money or stuff or both and the headaches and worry that come with it really outweigh most compensations. Also everything takes twice as long as you expect so it usually eats up most of my time to do anything else but the autograph show. Because of that and me wanting to have a less stressful visit I won't be doing it this year.

I think a fair fee is really whatever the person doing it feels makes it worth doing because it really does eat up a lot of time. $50 an autograph plus shipping is perfectly reasonable to me.

eurospace
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posted 09-07-2015 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to stress the same line of thinking as JasonB does. I am often getting requests to take stuff for other people when it becomes known I will be attending this or that event. Mostly it is not even for events where people pay to obtain an autograph, but other events where you ask astronauts for free autographs, and get as much as your smile carries.

Under those circumstances, I feel that asking other people to carry your stuff goes beyond limits. When you are asking an Astronaut for free autographs, asking for others automatically reduces the number of items you might get signed for yourself. If you do that for several people, you are likely not only not get items signed for a number of those you are carrying bona fide, you won't get anything for yourself at all. Unless you belong to the organizers and share time with the astronaut in a backroom, this is simply not going to work.

So usually I say "thanks, but no thanks", explaining aforementioned reasons" to the outside world. Within myself, my line of thinking rather goes like "Lazy bugger! why don't you move your a** and go yourself like I do? It probably isn't important enough for you to go there yourself.".

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