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Snoman0984
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posted 02-26-2014 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snoman0984   Click Here to Email Snoman0984     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have come across two official NASA presentations from astronaut Dave Scott. They are addressed to his former father in law brigade General Issac w. Ott (ike).

One is a Gemini 8 flown flag with picture and written "to Ike with all the best- the flag was there when we got the view on Gemini VIII, March 16,1966." Signed Dave Scott. The handwriting is very faded unfortunately. But the flag is in great shape

The Apollo 15 presentation has a flag roughly 3x1.5 in with a card under that reads, "This flag was carried on the lunar surface throughout the geological exploration of the Hadley Apennine Apollo 15, July 26-August 7,1971." It also has the patch with sliver 'XV' and the 'Ep' in black. It is also addressed "To Ike with all the best and many thanks for all your contributions to the success of this flight, with both airplanes and daughters." Signed Dave Scott.

These two presentations were saved from some storage units that were headed for the dump. I don't have pictures yet but will post some soon.

What do I have? I have done research for weeks and finally decided to ask for help because I couldn't find much about Issac Ott (Ike). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

stsmithva
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posted 02-26-2014 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They certainly sound like lucky finds.

I believe the Apollo 15 presentation looks like this one from a Goldberg auction. If you are curious about the possible value of yours, I see that the Goldberg one, signed by the crew to astronaut Richard Gordon, didn't reach its lower estimate of $7,500.

Of course, it would be hard to confidently state market value based on that one example, and I can't find any other examples of that kind of Apollo 15 lunar surface flown flag.

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posted 02-26-2014 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snoman0984   Click Here to Email Snoman0984     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Goldberg example is almost identical to mine. I couldn't find any examples of Gemini flown flags either I assume those are rare as well?

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posted 03-06-2014 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snoman0984   Click Here to Email Snoman0984     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I can't get pictures to work I'm trying from my phone. If anyone wants to see pictures I can email them. Thanks

spaced out
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posted 03-06-2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Apollo 15 surface flown miniature flag is a nice find. You'd probably be looking at something like $2,500 upwards for that in a space auction ($7,500 was a wildly optimistic opening price in that Goldberg auction).

I have to say I don't remember ever seeing a flown flag from Gemini 8 so that's definitely a very rare item. Difficult to estimate a value without any examples to draw from but I believe it would do very well in a space auction.

james f. ruddy
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posted 03-22-2014 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for james f. ruddy   Click Here to Email james f. ruddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My records show that there were, at least, six auction lot listings for 2.5 by 1.5" Beta cloth U. S. flags:
  • Superior Oct., 1997
  • Superior Oct., 1998
  • Christie's May, 2001
  • Swann April, 2003 (same one as in Christie's May, 2001).
  • Goldberg April, 2009
  • Goldberg Nov., 2009

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posted 03-22-2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snoman0984   Click Here to Email Snoman0984     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the 7th will be up for auction through RR in May along with the Gemini 8 flag and scrapbook full of news articles and photographs following from Apollo 7-11.

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posted 03-31-2014 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snoman0984   Click Here to Email Snoman0984     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone for your help! Big thanks to spaced out!

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