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SpaceyInMN
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posted 12-31-2013 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there. This is my first ever post, but I have enjoyed looking through other posts for a while. I'm looking for advice on the most economical way to obtain a legitimate moonwalker autograph on an 8X10 photo. I can't say that I'm very particular about which moonwalker it would be. I simply want to add a moonwalker autograph to my collection. I realize that a few in particular demand a premium price, which I really don't want to pay. I have seen Edgar Mithcell's website and know that I can get one of his autographs on an 8X10 photo for $75. Are there any other moonwalker autographs in this price range or less that one can acquire and be relatively certain as to the legitimacy of the autograph?

I'm a longtime autograph collector, and have hundreds from other areas such as athletes, actors, musicians, politicians, and even a couple supermodels. The vast majority of my autographs have been obtained in person or through family or friends who obtained them in person, and at little or no cost, so I'm not as familiar with purchasing something like this online, which makes me a little leery of getting burned by a forgery or autopen.

My only other space autograph is of John Glenn, which, as most on here know, he graciously signs for free. I also recently sent three photos to the Infinity Science Center to have signed by Fred Haise, and am looking forward to receiving those back. I am fascinated by all things space, but frankly, don't have the time or money to invest in collecting to the level that many on this board do, so any advice you can provide is greatly appreciated. I should also add that my autograph collection is for my own personal enjoyment and not an investment, so I'm not at all opposed to getting an autograph personalized to me, if that helps contain the cost. Thank you in advance, and I look forward to getting some feedback from you fine people!

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posted 12-31-2013 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shuttle Endeavour   Click Here to Email Shuttle Endeavour     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know Charlie Duke's address is on the resources page. He charges a little over $100.

One person you could buy from and guarantee authenticity is Ken Havekotte. He has run the Space Coast Cover Service since 1983. You can e-mail him.

Also, you can buy Eugene Cernan's book for around $20, and he will sign it for free.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 12-31-2013 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to cS.

Despite appearances, I don't have much time or money to invest in space autographs either. I'm not sure how many astronauts come to MN, but a check of the sightings page, or Googling astronaut appearances for the month will be worth the while. If you're just into the moonwalkers, Charlie Duke is in demand as a speaker and makes more than the occasional appearances.

SpaceyInMN
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posted 12-31-2013 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies! I'll look into your suggestions. I know that Buzz Aldrin was at the Mall of America a few years ago signing copies of a book, and a couple years before that, there was another moonwalker at a local jewelry store signing autographs. I have no idea why I didn't attend either event, since I've been into autograph collecting and space for quite some time. Oh well. Live and learn.

Thanks again, and have a happy and safe New Year!

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posted 12-31-2013 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shuttle Endeavour   Click Here to Email Shuttle Endeavour     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know he is not a moonwalker, but you should try e-mailing to the Canadian Space Agency for a free autograph from Chris Hadfield. It usually takes about a month. And you may want to be careful with the Buzz Aldrin signings. When I went earlier this year, the line was zig-zag through a huge library. It will take most of the day waiting on line.

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posted 12-31-2013 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the advice on Chris Hadfield. An e-mail has been sent! While I'm specifically looking for a moonwalker, I'm not opposed to acquiring other space autographs. I also plan to send a letter requesting an autograph from Alexey Leonov. Luckily, I work with a woman who is originally from near Moscow who can help me write a request in Cyrillic. I know requests to him are hit and miss, and some take years (which may not be in my favor, given his age). Either way, it's worth a shot.

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posted 12-31-2013 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shuttle Endeavour   Click Here to Email Shuttle Endeavour     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know of anymore Apollo moonwalkers that still sign for free. If you do want to buy, I would definitely recommend contacting Ken Havekotte. I do know that some flight controllers from the Apollo era sign freely, including Eugene Kranz and Glynn Lunney.

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posted 01-01-2014 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for getting other space autographs, writing letters to JSC as well as Star City and the Canadian Space Agency may yield some results. And astronauts are in demand to speak on college campuses and at schools....

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posted 01-01-2014 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May I also suggest Gerry Montague's astronautarchives.com

Have a look in the "Garage Sale" section where moonwalker signed photos start at about $50!

alanh_7
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posted 01-01-2014 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw signed copies of Charlie Duke's book at the Kennedy Space Center gift shop for $50.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 01-01-2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Alex, for the plug as I can provide some signed 8x10 photos of Mitchell and Duke for $55 postpaid, however, if a non-photo item would be adequate--like a signed commemorative postal cover or card--prices can even be lower than $50 in some cases. The lowest, at the moment from my holdings, would be $35 or so.

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posted 01-01-2014 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shuttle Endeavour   Click Here to Email Shuttle Endeavour     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome! Ken, have you gotten any of my e-mails?

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posted 01-01-2014 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! Lots of good information! Thanks again. A message has been sent to Ken. Thank you for the lead, and thanks to Ken for replying to this post.

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posted 01-01-2014 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shuttle Endeavour   Click Here to Email Shuttle Endeavour     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also recommend sending something to Robert "Hoot" Gibson. Also, Chris Kraft seems to be a good signer. Also, if your interested in anything else space related, including flown in space hardware, you should go to Ken. I would not recommend eBay. You may want to read this article and watch the video. It shows some of Ken Havekotte's collection.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 01-01-2014 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex, Yes, got your email(s) and will email you soon, meanwhile, be looking in your mailbox for something from Cape Canaveral. You'll know what it is when you see it.

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posted 01-01-2014 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shuttle Endeavour   Click Here to Email Shuttle Endeavour     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ken!

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posted 01-06-2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just as an update, I decided to bite the bullet and went ahead and ordered an autographed photo from Edgar Mitchell's website for $75. I was very excited when I received the package in the mail today. What I learned is that next time, I'm going to send my own photo. I will say that the photo was printed on Fujifilm Crystal Archive paper, which I appreciate. That being said, the paper itself is very flimsy, and the printing wasn't border-to-border, i.e. there is a white border around the printing. The photo is matte, rather than glossy. All of this, though, is personal preference. I much prefer border-to-border, glossy photos, but I should have asked ahead of time. That's my fault for not inquiring.

The part that gets me, though, is that the photo itself was clearly not handled very carefully. Two of the corners are bent, one of them fairly noticeable. I can understand if I had sent the photo, that in the unpacking and re-packing, that kind of thing can happen, but when a photo is ordered directly, I would hope some care would be given to handling and packaging. The mailer itself wasn't bent, so this had to happen in the handling process. Luckily, the bends are on the white border and not the printed area itself, and should be covered when I frame it. The quality of the printed image, in my opinion, is also sub-par. It appears blurry, to my eye. Some of that may be the matte finish, which I always find to have a blurry feel to it, but I am suspicious that the printing process wasn't very high quality.

Overall, this was a disappointing experience. I do like the autograph for the most part, and I'm happy to have the autograph of a moonwalker. Still, I have learned a lesson to ask questions ahead of time, and to preferably send a photo of my own choosing to get signed. I wouldn't call $75 a drop in the bucket when one doesn't have a large budget for something like this, but it's a lot less than I could have spent on other signed items, and I now have a better idea of how to approach any future items I may want to purchase and/or have signed.

I did exchange emails with Ken and am looking forward to hearing what he has available as well. I am confident, from the posts I've seen on this board about Ken, that if I choose to buy anything from him, I'll be very happy with my purchase.

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent a bit. I will still frame this photo, and I'm sure I'll like it when it is presented nicely.

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posted 01-06-2014 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shuttle Endeavour   Click Here to Email Shuttle Endeavour     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken is definitely the best to work with and you will always be more than satisfied with anything you buy from him. Maybe you should try returning the Edgar Mitchell autograph. Maybe he will let you exchange it with your own photo.

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posted 01-06-2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lev M   Click Here to Email Lev M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sent two my Apollo 14 collages to Dr. Mitchell and and I got them back nicely signed, but one of them was slightly damaged. I was able to exchange it in person during the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation's Astronaut Autograph and Memorabilia show.

The coming Spacefest will be a good opportunity to meet the hero and to do business with him.

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posted 01-06-2014 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd love to meet a moonwalker (or any astronaut, to be honest) in person, but that's not really possible at this time unless they come to Minnesota. While I thought about inquiring as to exchanging/returning this autographed photo, despite my gripes, I am very excited to have the autograph of one of twelve people to ever walk on another heavenly body, and as stated, the handling damage should be covered when I frame it (I have my own mat cutter and am going to try to mount this with an Apollo 14 patch). At this point, I just plan to chalk this up as a lesson learned, and also see what Ken has to offer. I'm still glad I went through with this purchase, and I do think $75 was a reasonable price to pay for a moonwalker autograph. I just now know how I would proceed if I should choose to pursue future astronaut autographs. Despite being a bit disappointing, this has also been a productive learning experience.

Thanks for all the support and advice, and happy collecting!

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posted 01-06-2014 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shuttle Endeavour   Click Here to Email Shuttle Endeavour     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are going to frame it, make sure you have UV Plexiglas and is not facing the Sun.

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posted 01-07-2014 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lspooz   Click Here to Email lspooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depending on where in Minnesota you live, according to Sightings on the left of this website the James Reilly appearance Sat 1/15AM in Wisconsin might be a chance for you to meet a shuttle astronaut...

There's nothing else nearby yet, not even in Canada (C. Hadfield).

Both for a great story and a free autograph, you need to immediately send a hardcover copy of "Last Man On The Moon" (with appropriate letter, book, return postpaid box) to Gene Cernan — he'll personalize it and perhaps write a short message) — see Resources also to the left!

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posted 01-07-2014 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the advice on the UV plexiglass, SE. I have done quite a bit of my own framing in the past and an very careful both in the materials I use and the placement of the items. I also tend to rotate the framed items that I put out both to prevent over exposure to light and to have different things to look at here and there.

lspooz, do you know if the book signing is free from Mr. Cernan, or is there a fee associated with it? I didn't see any mention of a fee on the resource page. I think I'll order a book this week and send it to him. I just want to make sure I cover any fees.

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Gene Cernan's autograph on the book is totally free, and he will write a nice inscription. You just need to send return postage.

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posted 01-08-2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just placed an order for a good, clean used copy of Mr. Cernan's book, a first edition hard cover. I would have liked to buy new, but that would have been way out of my price range. I'm looking forward to receiving it and sending it to Mr. Cernan for his signature. Thank you, yet again, for the advice.

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posted 01-15-2014 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received my copy of Mr. Cernan's book today and would like to send it to him soon to sign. As a matter of logistics, I'm not really sure what is meant by "return postpaid box." Do I pack a postage paid box inside the box I send to him along with the book, or is there some kind of prepaid postage I can send with that he can simply affix to the box I send him for the return shipment?

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posted 01-15-2014 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lspooz   Click Here to Email lspooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually pack a postage paid box inside the box I send - simply include postage as stamps on the inner box...

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posted 01-15-2014 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's how I send a book:

Get a medium-sized flat-rate Priority Mail box. Print postage on line with my name as both the from and to address (this way, no matter what happens, if postage goes up, Ipay it not the astronaut.) Put book and a roll of tape (for them to seal it) in box, lightly tape shut.

Write a letter to the astronaut, place it in envelope addressed to them. Tape the envelope over the return postage label.

Wrap the whole thing in brown kraft paper (preferred) or the reverse of wrapping paper (which is cheaper, but can get ripped off in the mail.) Address it to the astronaut. Bring to Post Office and mail.

This way, the astronaut gets the package, rips off the outer wrapping. S/he sees an envelope with their name on it, reads the letter and directions. Takes the book, signs it, seals it up including using the tape. Box either gets picked up by carrier or astronaut drops it off at post office.

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posted 01-15-2014 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceyInMN   Click Here to Email SpaceyInMN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the advice. This shouldn't be as cumbersome as I imagined. One follow-up question, though: would it be bad form to remove the dust cover from the book when I send it, to prevent damage to it? Would that come across as tacky?

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 01-15-2014 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would remove the dust jacket (and any inserts).

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