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moonnut
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posted 11-26-2013 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking to get the take of the signatures on this Apollo 11 item.

They look good to me, but looking for more opinions. Thanks, fellow collectSPACE enthusiasts.

moonnut
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posted 11-28-2013 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any opinions on the authenticity of these signatures would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

liftoff1
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posted 11-28-2013 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liftoff1   Click Here to Email liftoff1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a little hard to tell from those images but they look OK to me. Will you be posting better images when it arrives?

moonnut
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posted 11-28-2013 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, i will post some better pics when it arrives. Thanks for looking at it and giving your opinion. Appreciate it!

moonnut
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posted 12-02-2013 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got the framed photo and inspected it closer. Looks legit to me.

Wasn't mentioned in the description that it has a stamp affixed below Armstrong's autograph that is postmarked in Washington DC July 20, 1979. I have tried to research the events of the 10th anniversary, but didn't come up with much.

I just know that all three of the crew were at The National Air and Space Museum in Washington DC on that day for a ceremony. Just makes me believe that this item could have been signed on that day by all three. The stamp affixed possibly for provenance.

I would assume they did a signing session possibly?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-02-2013 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if the crew sat down to sign autographs at the National Air and Space Museum that day (although I tend to doubt it, as news reports suggested they drew a crowd of more than 2,000 people) but it doesn't look like they signed the piece in one sitting.

Collins signed mostly on the stamps. His autograph runs onto the print as well, establishing the stamps were already affixed to the photo when he signed.

By 1979, Armstrong had ceased signing all philatelic material — anything with a stamp (somewhere in my archives I have a letter from Armstrong's NASA secretary stating he had decided to stop signing stamped items in 1971).

So, that would suggest Armstrong signed the print before any stamps were added...

moonnut
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posted 12-03-2013 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert for the info.

Looking closer at the print, the stamp block is postmarked with the first day issue stamp where the postmark says, "MOON LANDING JUL 20 1969 USA."

To the left of that postmark is another that says, if I can read it right, "WASHINGTON, DC SEPT 9 1969 DC." Possibly the date the stamps were issued? (Unless I'm an idiot and something significant happened that day and I don't recall it.)

Now I'm getting a better picture. I was curious and wondering why the 10th anniversary stamp and postmark was so far away. If Armstrong wouldn't have signed it in '79, then I may assume the owner was planning on stamping and postmarking all the anniversaries along the bottom, but he/she only got as far as the 10th. I'll never know. It's kinda fun to play detective on the few little things that I'm given.

With the fading of the autographs I could see the Neil and Buzz signatures being signed between 69-71. Possibly the Collins too, just held up better on the stamp block. Anyway, thanks again!

moonnut
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posted 12-03-2013 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since, everything had to be period, it got me thinking about the photo the signatures are on. Is it period?

It is postmarked Sept. 9, 1969 so it has to be. I then found a YouTube video of a guy that found vintage large sized prints. Was pretty happy to see this. Things are lining up a bit.

moonnut
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posted 12-04-2013 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found that Sept 9 1969 was the issue date of the moon landing stamp.

1969 10¢ Moon Landing Stamp

Issue Date: September 9, 1969
City: Washington, DC
Quantity: 152,364,800
Printed By: Bureau of Engraving and Printing
Printing Method: Lithographed and Engraved (Giori) printing
Perforations: 11
Color: Multicolored

Also found that the prints were given out to educational facilities in 1969 to heighten interest and bring awareness to Apollo space program.

All times are CT (US)

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