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Topic: WTB: Liberty Bell 7 artifact lucite display
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West Wing
New Member Posts: 5
From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 06-25-2014 06:42 PM
   
I am looking for a Kansas Cosmosphere Liberty Bell 7 Lucite display. I have the film strip but would like to acquire an interesting item from the capsule. If you are considering selling yours, please let me know what you have and your price. |
MarylandSpace
Member Posts: 1336
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Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 06-26-2014 08:02 AM
There is a a lucite with a washer currently at $200 on eBay. |
West Wing
New Member Posts: 5
From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 06-26-2014 01:56 PM
Yes thank you I am aware of it. I have contacted the seller and he will not ship to Canada. It is a frustration I experience often on eBay. To my knowledge there are no trade sanctions such as on Shuttle tiles. Most times its folks not wanting to have to fill out the customs papers. His loss and my loss. Hopefully someone here will come through for me willing to sell to Canada. |
caroline.spears
New Member Posts: 6
From: Keithville, Louisiana, 71047
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 06-27-2014 09:02 AM
Don't know if this is what you're looking for, but neat nonetheless; on eBay, item 301212743478 is a Lucite display, rather small but decent size, of a piece of spacecraft tape and a piece of neck dam from Grissom's spacesuit with COA. Priced at $295, I wish I could get it because I have a Lucite display too. Check it out; very neat. |
West Wing
New Member Posts: 5
From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 06-27-2014 10:03 AM
Thank you for letting me know about this item on eBay. I do not support these folks who purchase interesting space flown artifacts and destroy these pieces by cutting them up into tiny pieces and selling them in lucite. Where did this person get the Liberty Bell tape I ask? Not saying it's not legit, I don't know, but there is no history attached to this item. No provenance or back story. Trust me I'm a dealer for 30 years is all he is offering. I would much rather have the real item if possible. I know these watered down, cut up items make it affordable for more collectors but eventually there will only be tiny pieces of flown items to collect. A flown checklist cut up into 2000 1/4 cm chunks is no longer a checklist. Its a tiny piece of paper flown in space. Not my cup of tea. How would I know if this item selling on eBay is legitimate? When you think about it, the market demand for flown items is so high there is now so much potential for counterfeit items. Reputation of the folks releasing them is all you have to go on I guess. I don't know this seller and I don't support the destruction of legitimate space artifacts. I know the Kansas Cosmosphere and the work these fine folks do and I believe their items are the real deal. |
caroline.spears
New Member Posts: 6
From: Keithville, Louisiana, 71047
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 06-27-2014 10:24 AM
Just thought I'd offer help. I personally think it's great that amateur collectors, such as I, who are relatively new to the space history scene are able to acquire such relics and give them the same respect and prominence they deserve. I would love to own that $7,000 headset they have listed on eBay that was worn by Gus Grissom, but that is not a possibility for me, or probably for many others at this point. It is a wonderful tool for future generations, especially when gleaning inspiration from the tragedies and triumphs of missions past. If that is done by offering miniscule artifacts in an economically attainable form, I see no problem, just as long as those who are buying/selling do regard them with the significance they deserve. It makes them feel a part of the sphere.
Thank you for your time and good luck with your search. |
Greggy_D
Member Posts: 977
From: Michigan
Registered: Jul 2006
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posted 06-27-2014 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by caroline.spears:
I would love to own that $7,000 headset they have listed on eBay that was worn by Gus Grissom
Trust me, no you would not. |
SpaceAholic
Member Posts: 4437
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-27-2014 12:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by West Wing:
I do not support these folks who purchase interesting space flown artifacts and destroy these pieces by cutting them up into tiny pieces and selling them in lucite.
There are many of us who share your view... thumbs up!
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caroline.spears
New Member Posts: 6
From: Keithville, Louisiana, 71047
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 06-27-2014 01:25 PM
Besides, isn't that Lucite display from the Cosmosphere the same thing? Film strip cut into smaller pieces? Don't mean to get bent out of shape here, but I really was only trying to help someone. |
West Wing
New Member Posts: 5
From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Registered: Jun 2014
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posted 06-27-2014 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by caroline.spears:
Don't mean to get bent out of shape here, but I really was only trying to help someone.
No worries - it's turned into a great discussion. I like the Kansas Cosmosphere artifacts because they did not destroy any intact items. The items they sold raised funds to restore Liberty Bell 7 and were items that would have been otherwise stored in a box on a shelf or simply thrown away. I understand the 200 foot or so ball of film was uncoiled from the corroded camera and was of no useful purpose in the restoration. I'm fine in sharing these small pieces because nothing was destroyed and it raised money for the restoration of an amazing historical space artifact one day I hope to view in person. |
SpaceAholic
Member Posts: 4437
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-29-2014 07:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by West Wing:
I do not support these folks who purchase interesting space flown artifacts and destroy these pieces by cutting them up into tiny pieces and selling them.
The same seller "History by the Inch" is selling reminants of a formally intact Explorer 1 Umbilical. |
chet
Member Posts: 1506
From: Beverly Hills, Calif.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-30-2014 12:01 AM
Can't say I agree with the way the umbilical is being presented by this seller (I might feel differently if the sizes of the artifact pieces being sold were a little less discouraging), but I don't think the original piece as it was acquired could quite accurately be described as "intact" either. |
SpaceAholic
Member Posts: 4437
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-30-2014 07:58 PM
The umblicle had recognizable structure before it was decimated... hope whoever cut it up (as well as those in proximity) were prepared to endure the risk of mesothelioma; the external thermal insulator was likely asbestos and would have generated airborne filaments while being dismantled. |
chet
Member Posts: 1506
From: Beverly Hills, Calif.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-30-2014 09:30 PM
I do agree whatever it was was decimated by the fashion in which it was dissected (and hope no health problems result from the possibility it was an asbestos laden artifact). |
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