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Spacefest
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posted 10-31-2012 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jim McDivitt brought us a bunch of flown flags (4x6 inches) from both his flights, Gemini IV in 1965 and Apollo 9 in 1969.

From Gemini IV we have American flags plus most states and most countries (as of 1965). Flown Gemini artifacts are particularly rare, owing to severe space and weight constraints. Indeed, Gemini flown flags of states and countries have never been offered for sale before. All of these flags are priced to sell. Most all are 50%-90% below norms.

To see what's available go Astronaut Central. You'll need to call 800-727-6682 to order (not available for online ordering.) Professional framing is available.

Prices good until Nov. 30, 2012. — Kim & Sally Poor

liftoff1
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posted 11-01-2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liftoff1   Click Here to Email liftoff1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kim, are you updating inventory chart daily? These seem to be going quickly.

atpowell
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posted 11-01-2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for atpowell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just received one of the country flags today — signed and inscribed as flown by McDivitt — it looks stunning! This is an amazing opportunity to get a flown Gemini artifact at a great price. Thanks Kim for making these available!!

Spacefest
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posted 11-01-2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by liftoff1:
Kim, are you updating inventory chart daily? These seem to be going quickly.

We're trying to do it whenever we sell one, so it's pretty current.

Spacefest
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posted 11-01-2012 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GT-4 small (4X6) USA flags SOLD OUT

Spacefest
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posted 11-02-2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ALL USA Apollo 9 and Gemini-Titan IV flags sold out. Some countries and states remain.

JLR1
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posted 11-02-2012 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLR1   Click Here to Email JLR1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received my US flag flown on Gemini IV today- Very pleased...thank you Kim and staff at Novaspace!

davidcwagner
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posted 11-05-2012 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidcwagner   Click Here to Email davidcwagner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just received the GT-4 flown Dominican Republic flag. Great Mcdivitt inscription. Another outstanding Novaspace/Astronaut Central deal. Two questions:
  1. Is the McDivitt signature on the COA printed or hand signed?
  2. What is Kim's next surprise?

fredtrav
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posted 11-05-2012 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got my Cambodian flag today (it actually got to the post office on Friday and I was able to pick it up today). Great job of packaging. Thanks for putting this together.

MrSpace86
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posted 11-05-2012 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To answer David's questions:
  1. They are printed, not hand signed. Still cool COA's though with a lot of info.

  2. Neil Armstrong's PPK and flags he flew. All at a reasonable price (hey, it's free to dream. )

Spacefest
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posted 11-05-2012 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by davidcwagner:
Is the McDivitt signature on the COA printed or hand signed? What is Kim's next surprise?
The McDivitt sig on the COA is printed. We couldn't have Jim sign hundreds of certificates saying he signed the flags. Where does it end?

Next will be an unusual Alan Bean giclee, Spacefest tickets will go on sale, and maybe a signing.

mdmyer
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posted 11-08-2012 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mdmyer   Click Here to Email mdmyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I have purchased the State flag of Kansas and I am going to make my own presentation. Where do I download high resolution photos of Ed White's space walk? Thanks in advance.

Spacefest
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posted 11-08-2012 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Images in NASA library of images.

MrSpace86
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posted 11-08-2012 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucky. I wanted the state of Kansas flag as well so it could go with my other Kansas flags but went broke with a country flag

garyd2831
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posted 11-08-2012 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I was wondering how long it would be before someone would decide to cash in on the great values that were offered to us by Mr. McDivitt. While anyone can do whatever they feel like, I think it can hamper the opportunities that other astronauts to include Mr. McDivitt from selling us their collections at very fair prices.

I was lucky to purchase a flown Gemini IV flag and wish I had purchased one from Apollo 9. I think it is a little sad to see a Gemini IV flag already for sale on eBay for double what they were selling for a week ago. This is just my opinion.

mjanovec
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posted 11-08-2012 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by garyd2831:
Well, I was wondering how long it would be before someone would decide to cash in on the great values that were offered to us by Mr. McDivitt.

I suspect McDivitt did not have any delusions that these flags wouldn't be bought-and-resold by some. I'm sure he and Novaspace just settled on a price-per-flag that they thought was fair for their mutual interests.

mdmyer
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posted 11-08-2012 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mdmyer   Click Here to Email mdmyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, I think I will enjoy the flag, it is at the post office, I will pick it up tomorrow. This is my second flown flag. The first is an STS-6 Flown American flag presented to Gene Kranz on a presentation card with a flown patch too. And thanks for the links to the photos. I found just what I was looking for.

JasonB
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posted 11-08-2012 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would seem that they settled on prices that would sell the flags quickly. I seriously doubt anyone like McDivitt would be turned off by someone reselling the flags. If he was he either wouldn't sell them or he'd jack the price up. He had a bunch of flags to sell and probably just wanted to get rid of them without spending three years trying to sell them all.

AJ
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posted 11-08-2012 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AJ   Click Here to Email AJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are very, very lucky collectors. The words I have for the person who is already selling one of the flags on ebay cannot be printed. People like that have no soul. I am excited to receive my flag and I will treasure it always.

Aztecdoug
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posted 11-09-2012 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aztecdoug   Click Here to Email Aztecdoug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I picked up a flag that represents the homeland of my mother's ancestors. I imagine this flag is the first flag from our ancestral homeland that was ever flown into space. It is now, instantly, a family heirloom. It will not be available for sale in my lifetime.

randyc
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posted 11-09-2012 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If someone would like to sell a Gemini 4 flown U.S. flag at a reasonable profit please send me an e-mail. Thanks.

MrSpace86
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posted 11-22-2012 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently received an Apollo 9 Texas flag from Novaspace, and again, it is wonderful! It is strange because all of my flags are either USA, Kansas, or El Salvador. I really have no connection to Texas but Apollo 9 was rather limited.

Which leads to my question: why were there so many more Gemini 4 flags and why did Jim McDivitt wait this long to offer all these?

Well, Texas is the home of Johnson Space Center so I guess my flag has at least a little connection to me

carl walker
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posted 11-22-2012 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl walker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We met Jim at the ASF show, and asked him the same question. He answered honestly, that he'd forgotten about them until the box containing them turned up in a recent move of home. They'd been packed away during many earlier moves.

I feel the same, I bought a US and NL flag, and will treasure these as near unique historical pieces.

Many thanks Jim and Novaspace!

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 11-22-2012 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The whole experience of acquiring one of Jim McDivitt's flown GT-4 flags was made all the more pleasurable by dealing with Sally, Kim and Co. at Novaspace. Those guys are just top notch

john ffoulkes
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posted 11-22-2012 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for john ffoulkes   Click Here to Email john ffoulkes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree Rick, I bought the Gemini IV Venezuelan flag and Sally at Novaspace could not have been more helpful.

MrSpace86
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posted 11-22-2012 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that's insane. I thought he hadn't distributed them because he had been assigned to the Apollo 9 crew and hence why there was no time to distribute them. I figured the lack of Apollo 9 flags meant that he had time after that flight to distribute those and just never got around to the Gemini 4 flags.

Either way, I think he knows that all those flags are now in good hands. And I echo what everyone has said and I said earlier: Novaspace continues to be one of the few bright and awesome spots in the space collecting world. What an excellent staff.

Spacefest
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posted 11-23-2012 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, gang. Jim also has a box of checklists, somewhere. As one of the original Apollo and Gemini guys he had offices in Houston, Kennedy, Boston, Palmdale, Downey, St. Louis, New York... and lost track of many things, which eventually turn up.

By the way, the ENTIRE Apollo 9 crew, the last living crew signing, will be at Spacefest V.

Spacefest
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posted 11-26-2012 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Four Gemini IV country flags remain; Belgium, Saudi Arabia, Rep. of the Congo, and Mexico.

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Originally posted by Aztecdoug:
I picked up a flag that represents the homeland of my mother's ancestors. I imagine this flag is the first flag from our ancestral homeland that was ever flown into space. It is now, instantly, a family heirloom. It will not be available for sale in my lifetime.

I sat down at the Thanksgiving dinner table with my 88 year old mother and told her of this flag I was picking up. She looked at me like I was the most important man in the world to have access to and the ability to own such an important artifact.

I tried to explain that it wasn't me, but a man in Tucson AZ that set it all up. She just kept looking at me like her son was some kind of a VIP.

Thanks Kim, Sally and all.

Spacefest
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posted 11-27-2012 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh, Doug, what a great story. You ARE a VIP in our book!

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posted 11-27-2012 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a great opportunity to own something that has flown in space, let alone a banner representing your home country. I'm sure Doug and others will pass down these artifacts to the next generation of space collectors in their families!

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