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posted 09-03-2012 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone is interested I propose to start a new European Grab Bag (number V I believe?) on its way.

I believe I have enough material to start a small box. Nothing fancy, but some interesting bits and pieces.

As ever we need to keep the weight down to avoid enormous shipping fees.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 09-03-2012 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Count me in please Chris.

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posted 09-03-2012 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'd be more than happy to co-operate on this endeavour too, Chris. Being a newbie though, I'm not too sure of the protocol involved so a quick heads-up on the procedure would be invaluable.

Thanks in advance.

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posted 09-03-2012 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great idea! - I sure like to grab some patches and I have to give some nice patches from my collection too (nothing real expensive, but maybe some that are not so easy to be found). The only problem is: maybe I am moving at the moment and my address will change, but I am not too sure about that...

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posted 09-03-2012 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Lazecky   Click Here to Email Daniel Lazecky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonderful day friends. I would like to join. You can count on me as well?

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It's basically a box of space-related bits and pieces. You rummage through it and hopefully find some bits and pieces of interest for your collection then put in some items you hope might be of interest to other people down the line.

It's not going to be full of Armstrong signed lithos but there are still enough interesting but inexpensive collectibles out there to make it worthwhile and fun.

Because a heavy box will cost a fortune to send at each step I'll try to keep the initial weight down to around 2kg.

I won't have the box ready for a few days at least so let's give the list a little time to grow before we kick things off.

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posted 09-04-2012 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butch wilks   Click Here to Email butch wilks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please add me to your list to sent it too.

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posted 09-04-2012 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Stephenson   Click Here to Email David Stephenson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to be added too.

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posted 09-04-2012 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Count me in too. I've got a few bits that can go in the box.

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posted 09-05-2012 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for martin00sr   Click Here to Email martin00sr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in!

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posted 09-05-2012 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocket Chris   Click Here to Email Rocket Chris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in... greetings from Germany.

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posted 09-05-2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Count me in as well.

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I'm going to leave it a little while longer before starting it off as I want to get a better idea how many people are going to be in the loop.

The reason is I'd like to put in a few items in multiples and I want to be sure I put in enough for everyone but not too many so as not to waste space and weight in the package.

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posted 09-06-2012 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for space-coins   Click Here to Email space-coins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in too!

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posted 09-06-2012 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ApolloAlex   Click Here to Email ApolloAlex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Count me in too, I have a few items to add of interest.

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Look like we're up to 13 participants now by my reckoning.

I've started working on filling the box now. I'm probably going to be aiming for the under 3kg range now as 2kg was just too restrictive.

The postage between countries is going to be fairly hefty but within the UK I believe it should be possible to post for £8.80.

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posted 09-09-2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you start the grab bag now, you can count me in for sure! I am not leaving Germany before the beginning of October, and I am real looking forward to the grab bag, because I am doing this for the first time...

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I'm going to try to get the EGB-V ready for launch this week.

"Apollo8" if you send me your address I'll send it to you first since you have a time deadline.

After that I suggest maybe the box could do a quick tour of the European mainland - Germany, Holland, Czech Rep., Denmark - before heading for the usual grand tour of the UK.

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posted 09-11-2012 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Lazecky   Click Here to Email Daniel Lazecky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please consider and decide in the direction of sending the correct package. I mean, carefully planned his journey. For all sure it will not load, but certainly an advantage. The last package, it was a very smart thing to do. Very good plan. Thank you for your attention.

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posted 09-12-2012 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for medaris   Click Here to Email medaris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to take part as well!

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posted 09-12-2012 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dietrich   Click Here to Email Dietrich     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also would like to take part. Since I live in Germany, can you please include me in the tour? Thanks for the oganisation!

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...I guess there are some Astrium guys from BRE right?

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I am interested to join too. Working in Sweden with, among other projects, an European launcher.

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The EGB-V should be launching today. I'll publish a brief overview of the mission stowage list a little later.

Can I ask that all participants please email me the address they want to use for the delivery?

I will use this information to work out the optimum route and will forward the appropriate details to each link in the chain so there's no need to establish comm links each time.

In terms of guidelines for the users of the box:

  • I strongly suggest that you try to keep the weight under 3kg, although once it reaches the UK you could consider upgrading to 4kg as the internal postage won't be so expensive.
  • Take out whatever interests you (don't be shy) and try to replace it with material you're sure will appeal to someone else down the line.
  • Don't take out items to resell.
To my mind the worst thing to put in the box is something heavy with little or no appeal to others.

Books or obscure bulky documents are generally a bad idea. A paperback might weigh 300g which means it's going to be costing around 2.50 Euros every time it's mailed between countries. If it stays in the box for four trips then it would have been cheaper for the next person to buy a new copy. If it stays in the whole way round it will have cost everyone nearly 40 Euros!

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posted 09-14-2012 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris, any idea as to the overall size of the package? Will it be large enough to accommodate A4 or are we looking at something smaller. As a patch collector, I'll be mainly adding patches surplus to requirement but I have some decal sheets that may be of interest which I'd be happy to move on.

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posted 09-14-2012 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike, previous boxes have all been large enough to accommodate A4 size items, so I would think Chris would do the same in this case.

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The box is big enough for A4 items. There's no guarantee it'll be the same box by the time it reaches you though as these things tend to take a bit of a beating as they go.

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Official press release from the EGB-V launch site [11:44 CET / 09:44 UDT]:

If weather conditions remain favourable in the Paris area (for my wife to get to the Post Office) the EGB-V should be launching today. We are currently experiencing light cross winds and the weather radar shows only a 10% probability of precipitation so the probability of a successful launch remains high.

Some technical information on the launch vehicle:

The unmanned EGB-V cargo vehicle consists of a reinforced cellulose-based corrugated fiberboard outer hull and a payload bay accessed by means of four hinged panels in the outer hull.

Total weight at launch of the EGB-V will be 2,987g, which is within the specified parameters for the vehicle.

Since the vehicle itself does not include any propulsion system it will be delivered by a combination of small post office vans, lorries, trains, planes, and kicks from disgruntled postal workers.

Further updates will be provided when possible.

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posted 09-14-2012 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Godspeed EGB-V.

Looking forward to a successful rendezvous and transfer of materials from within the UK sometime in the future.

Congratulations to the Launch Team.

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Below I give a basic manifest for the EGB-V at launch. Obviously this is going to change as the box progresses, although I have put in enough multiples of a few items to ensure that there should be one for every participant.

Please bear in mind that all the material to start the box has to come from my own collection so don't expect miracles in terms of the content. Since I have so far failed to win the Euromillions jackpot I'm afraid I don't have 3 kilos of Armstrong signed lithos, vintage Gemini crew patches, flown kapton foil, and lunar dust to shovel into the box.

EGB-V Concise Stowage List:

  • Assorted patches including a few Lion Brothers Apollo patches, some assorted Shuttle patches in multiples (5 or 6 of each), and some odds and ends.
  • A large number of decals including numerous vintage Apollo mission decals, mostly in quantity (enough for everyone to take one example).
  • A number of pins, including STS-26 and STS-115 pins in bulk and some others in smaller quantities.
  • A folder containing assorted NASA lithos (Apollo era) plus a few vintage Apollo-era b/w photos, and some vintage Gemini b/w press release photos.
  • A small stack of covers with a couple of vintage Apollo-era examples and a few more modern covers from Shuttle press kits.
  • Miscellaneous paper ephermera including a few vintage booklets, Shuttle facility guest passes, and a few press passes from early Shuttle launches.
  • Over 250 foreign space-themed stamps plus a few US-issue.
  • Three fragment handouts produced in the 1980s or 1990s by Jacques Tiziou. These include small pieces of thermal insulation from an Ariane V-9 1984 launch and insulation panel fragments from a French Diamant A launch from 1966. There should be enough of these for everyone to take one.
By the way, I don't expect everyone who receives the box to say what they took out or put in.

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posted 09-14-2012 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann   Click Here to Email Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, can I still join?

I'm a patch collector, so I'll probably add patches. But I have some other interesting things to add as well.

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I am building a list as we go so anyone is free to join.

[Updated List moved to end of current thread.]

If everyone could please email me their mailing address it will help me to work out the best route.

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posted 09-14-2012 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirk   Click Here to Email Dirk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You may count me in too (Belgium).

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I am looking forward to the Apollo era NASA lithos! I hope, it's okay to give patches for lithos? I have started collecting lithos a few months ago, and don't have any lithos to give away. But as a patch collector for a few years I can throw in patches and I can give away a Skylab space flight medal with flown metal, too (I had to buy it with a rare patch, I was looking for, but I don´t collect medals or coins)!

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posted 09-14-2012 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Count me in as well (Belgium).

Can send stuff from Germany, the Netherlands and sometimes to France, so I am a good stepping stone for cross-border shipping of the EGB to one of these countries.

Jürgen

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Courtesy of Mike Riches, the EGB-V mission now has its own insignia.

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posted 09-15-2012 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocket Chris   Click Here to Email Rocket Chris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So for me it will be in Bremen, Germany.

Wow what a patch! Great. Could you provide it in a high-res version? This insignia must be applied on the package!!! Awesome!

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Send me your email address and I'll provide a higher res version. I've also amended the flight path to reflect the fact it will land in Scotland before England.

Message to Steve Proctor: I work in Leeds so may as well save on postage costs and arrange a swop, assuming the mailing order stays as is and it's OK with you. Will contact you nearer the date.

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As the list has rapidly expanded to 21 names now I should note that everyone on the list will need to be pretty patient. Previous missions, with less participants, have taken 6 to 8 months.

Note that the order is not set in stone. As the mainland European list continues to grow it may be that we can split things so that the box travels through the UK for a while before coming back to the mainland to continue the tour.

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posted 09-15-2012 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great insignia! I NEED an EGB V patch for my flight jacket (laugh!)! - My outpost is prepared for docking and I hope, the cargo ship will arrive soon...


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