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Topic: Christa McAuliffe's Lesson Plans
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susanb
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posted 09-27-2007 07:06 AM
   
I was a teacher in space candidate and have the actual lesson plans that Christa McAuliffe planned to use from space. These were sent to me from NASA prior to the flight and they are still in the original envelope. I am intersted in selling. sbayles@wscc.edu |
collocation
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posted 09-27-2007 08:13 AM
With all due respect, this may be a bit morbid to many. I am sure you will find a buyer. But, I would like to suggest donating the plan to National Air & Space Musuem or another appropriate museum of your choice. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-27-2007 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by susanb:
I was a teacher in space candidate and have the actual lesson plans that Christa McAuliffe planned to use from space.
By lesson plans, what exactly is it that you have? Does it resemble this PDF? Teacher Supplement for Christa's Lesson Plans |
Spacepsycho
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posted 09-27-2007 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by collocation:
With all due respect, this may be a bit morbid to many. I am sure you will find a buyer. But, I would like to suggest donating the plan to National Air & Space Musuem or another appropriate museum of your choice.
I fail to see what is offensive or morbid about wanting to sell or own Christa's original lesson plan, she was to use during STS-51L. It's not like this person is selling something from SCM that was on Challenger and recovered after the explosion.I'm curious what is so offensive or morbid to you? The problem I have with people donating anything to the NASM is that 99.9% of the rare artifacts given, are stored away from public display, never to be seen or only viewed by serious researchers. While the NASM is a great institution, they have neither the time, manpower or room to display 99% of their collection. Ray |
spacekid2
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posted 09-27-2007 11:59 AM
I agree with Ray.
In my opinion there is nothing morbid about selling or owning a personal item of a deceased Astronaut.The only time I find it offensive and morbid is selling any item the day of their death. In fact most true collectors of space memoriabilia count it an honor to care for the relics of our space history. I am a High School History teacher and fellow collector. Selling the lesson plans from Christa McAuliffe's flight ensures that a true piece of Space History will be cared for and appreciated. Also, most collectors share photos of and loan out pieces of their own collections to smaller museums. Giving more people the opportunity to see a unique space history relic. I for one would love to have Christa's Lesson Plans. (History teacher Bias 
Paul |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-27-2007 12:00 PM
Susan confirmed via e-mail that what she owns is indeed the same as the PDF linked above. |
randy
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posted 09-27-2007 12:10 PM
I also agree with Ray. I would love to have Christa's lesson plans. When I give a presentation, the part that people (especially the kids) really remember is when they actually get to touch a piece of space history-a piece of Skylab, Columbia, Discovery, Soyuz or Aerogel. That's what really impresses them and makes them want to learn more.Randy |
mjanovec
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posted 09-27-2007 12:24 PM
While I believe that everyone needs to draw their own personal line in the sand about what they will/won't collect with regards to the tragic missions (A1, 51L, 107), I don't personally have a problem with collecting Christa's lesson plans...unless, of course, they were the flown lesson plans that were recovered after the tragedy. If nothing else, these lesson plans are a reminder of Christa's role in the space program and the larger mission of educating people from a platform in space.The only thing I find mildly irritating about the lesson plan is that even its authors didn't know how to spell Judy Resnik's last name. Call it a pet peeve... |
susanb
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posted 09-27-2007 01:16 PM
What I have is NOT a PDF document. I have the actual document that was mailed to me from NASA prior to the launch. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-27-2007 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by susanb:
What I have is NOT a PDF document.
But is it the same document as depicted in the PDF? If so, than this was a handout that was sent to everyone who applied for the teacher in space program. |
collocation
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posted 09-27-2007 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Spacepsycho:
It's not like this person is selling something from SCM that was on Challenger and recovered after the explosion.
My bad, I took "actual lesson plans" literally, my mistake. |
poofacio
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posted 09-27-2007 03:31 PM
I would defend to the death anyone's right to have and air their opinions.I hope that I have the same right to air mine for what it is worth. IMO it is offensive that nice ladies (and she is) should be made to feel as if they are doing something Amoral by offering this sort of item to collectors. I have said it before and here goes again. If it offends you don't buy it but don't bang on about it. David |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-27-2007 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by poofacio:
IMO it is offensive that nice ladies (and she is) should be made to feel as if they are doing something Amoral by offering this sort of item to collectors.
I don't think it was anyone's intention to insult Ms. Bayles. I think there was a misunderstanding as to what it was she was offering, which when presented to an audience that has a deep respect for space history, raised a concern.The document Ms. Bayles received is a fine example of the paraphernalia related to the STS-51L mission that could have been, much like the landing viewing passes that are sometimes offered. It would make a great addition to a collection related to the final flight of Challenger and the STS-51L crew. The PDF link I provided was to assist in identifying the document. It was not meant to serve as a replacement to the hard copy that Ms. Bayles is offering. |
collocation
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posted 09-27-2007 05:10 PM
Robert is correct, I misunderstood the work "actual" again, my mistake and I apologize it I offended anyone and for causing this confusion |
kyra
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posted 09-27-2007 06:17 PM
The actual flown lesson plans were undoubtedly based on what is in the .pdf in an abridged NASAese format. They would be a part of the Payload Operations flight suppliment.There would also be a section in the Photo/TV OPS Checklist detailing some of these plans. I have a microfiche copy of Richard Scobee's Crew Activity Plan showing water damage to the pages. Some may see that as "morbid", but I choose to see the inscriptions inside by him to be a symbol of a commander having a vision and plan of his crew. |
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