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Topic: 5/14: Apollo 8 evening at Heritage Flight (WA)
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Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42986 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-31-2016 10:45 PM
Heritage Flight Museum release An Evening With Apollo 8Imagine hearing the story of the Apollo 8 mission from the men who flew it... It can happen! You can spend an intimate evening with Apollo 8 astronauts Frank Borman, Jim Lovell and Bill Anders. This once in a lifetime opportunity is brought to you by the Heritage Flight Museum, founded by Bill and Valerie Anders, now in Washington’s beautiful Skagit Valley. Details are being finalized, but mark your calendars now: An Evening With Apollo 8 May 14, 2016 Heritage Flight Museum, Skagit Regional Airport-KBVS Burlington, WA Ticketing and sponsor information will be available soon. Fly-In parking will be available. This event is a fundraiser benefiting the Heritage Flight Museum, a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization, founded in 1996 by Bill and Valerie Anders. |
Tronplex New Member Posts: 5 From: Ireland Registered: Aug 2015
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posted 02-11-2016 12:34 AM
Anyone know what to expect in terms of ticket prices for this event? |
Tronplex New Member Posts: 5 From: Ireland Registered: Aug 2015
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posted 02-19-2016 11:12 PM
Tickets start at $1000!Tickets for $10,000 include signed Earthrise by all three crew members. |
David C Member Posts: 1014 From: Lausanne Registered: Apr 2012
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posted 02-22-2016 05:26 PM
Wow, that's pretty steep, Anders signature or not. |
p51 Member Posts: 1642 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 02-22-2016 10:17 PM
Dang. I was so badly wanting to go to this, and unlike others, I wasn't even caring about signatures...Yet another case of only the rich getting to go to a space event. Ticked off as I am, I wasn't really all that surprised. |
moonnut Member Posts: 248 From: Andover, MN Registered: Apr 2013
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posted 02-22-2016 10:54 PM
Well, maybe it's tax deductible since it's basically a donation to the museum. You might be able to email them and ask for a donation receipt. It's a way to offset the cost somehow, right? I'm sure the rich write it all off. |
Tronplex New Member Posts: 5 From: Ireland Registered: Aug 2015
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posted 02-23-2016 03:35 PM
The obscene ticket prices are surely only in place to take advantage of autograph collectors with cash on the hip. Because the prices have excluded true fans who just want to sit in a room with the crew and listen to the story of Apollo 8. Massive shame. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42986 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 02-23-2016 03:42 PM
I think that's taking it a bit too far. I can understand your disappointment, but the reason the astronauts are doing this is to raise funds for the museum; they don't personally benefit from this in any other way. So kudos to them for maximizing the return, as it is sure to make a difference to the museum going forward. As an aside, the prices really aren't all that "obscene" for charity events. Granted, there are galas that cost less, but $1,000 per plate is not unusual. (Maybe the museum will offer up a recording of the event afterwards so those who cannot afford to attend but would like to hear the remarks can still do so.) |
moonnut Member Posts: 248 From: Andover, MN Registered: Apr 2013
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posted 02-23-2016 10:09 PM
If Mr. Anders would do what Fred Haise does for the Infinity Science Center, his museum would make probably more than this current benefit. That is — offer a signature for a set amount that would be entirely donated to the museum. Believe me, he could easily ask for a few hundred for each flick of the wrist. I'd be first in line. Honestly, I hope that a lot is made for the museum because it's all about preserving artifacts, educating and getting the youth excited about flight endeavors! If I had an excessive disposable income I would definitely be there. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42986 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 02-23-2016 10:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by moonnut: If Mr. Anders would do what Fred Haise does for the Infinity Science Center, his museum would make probably more than this current benefit.
For simplicity sake, let's say there are 200 seats at the event and each is $1,000 (since that is the minimum that anyone will pay). That's at least $200,000 for the evening.Haise asks $50 for one autograph or $100 for three. That means he would need to sign at least 2,000 autographs to raise the minimum of what the Heritage Flight Museum will make in one night. I would guess Haise fields, at most, several hundred requests annually (for the sake of the Infinity Science Center, I'd love to be wrong), and I just don't see the overall demand for Anders' autograph being that much more. |
p51 Member Posts: 1642 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 02-23-2016 11:50 PM
I couldn't care less about autographs, just ticked that I couldn't just see them without spending a comical amount of money.Beats me why so many are fixated on signatures as some kind of constant fixture of the experience. |
AirKing Member Posts: 34 From: East Yorkshire, England Registered: Jan 2016
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posted 02-24-2016 03:24 AM
If you can find one then a more reasonable way of obtaining a Bill Anders signature would be to buy an Association of Space Explorers 28, Sweden 2015 poster.Bill Anders attended this event and I bought my poster from the son of a cosmonaut who was there as well. Only around 100 posters where signed by 72 of the attending astronauts and the majority where given as gifts to the astronauts. |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3445 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 02-24-2016 09:53 AM
"A comical amount of money" differs from person to person. It's a fundraiser and a once in a lifetime experience.Fourteen or so years ago $250 was a lot of money to me — still can be to some people, and even today I have to think twice before spending that much on one thing — but for a chance to hear Neil Armstrong speak, not even to meet him, it was worth it. (The price included an exotic dinner such as kangaroo and alligator, and as for the other celebrities there that night, I briefly met Walter Cronkite, who wasn't signing, and also heard from Arthur C. Clarke, who was piped in via satellite from Sri Lanka.) (I also met Dan Goldin, who signed my NASA Fact Files booklet, circled the logo on the cover, and said, "Get rid of the worm.") As for autographs, beats me why I collect them. I can't explain. But I usually don't get photos with the astronauts, my photos of them usually are "grab shots," not posed, so maybe the signature is a tangible reminder of the event, one I'm likely to hold onto more so than a ticket stub or program book. |
moonnut Member Posts: 248 From: Andover, MN Registered: Apr 2013
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posted 02-24-2016 10:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Robert Pearlman: That's at least $200,000 for the evening.
Robert, ya got me there. But I do think he could charge plenty more than $50 that Haise charges and still get plenty of requests. I'm not one of those that is all about the signature... trust me. I once drove 4 1/2 hours one way to hear Gene Cernan speak, knowing he wouldn't be signing. Well worth it. Took 5 1/2 hours to get back because there was a snow storm and a semi rolled in the ditch on the main highway. Still well worth it. |
Tronplex New Member Posts: 5 From: Ireland Registered: Aug 2015
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posted 02-24-2016 03:20 PM
For $10,000 I'd expect a time machine to let us experience the mission first hand.But that's completely out of the question. Is it? |
Machodoc Member Posts: 207 From: DE Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 02-28-2016 08:20 AM
It's a fundraising event and not an autograph event. As someone with experience with political and charity fundraisers, I've got to say the top tier tickets are not at all out of line. Given the age and scheduling issues of the headliners it's hard to fault the museum for maxing out their fundraising potential. Let's face it, they will most likely get only one bite out of this apple. Expensive? Yes, for almost all collectors certainly. For someone who would have to travel from the East Coast like me the price of the ticket is just one part of the cost equation. But is it out of line with a unique and almost impossible to get group of celebrities for a charity? Not really. |
stsmithva Member Posts: 1933 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 02-28-2016 09:08 AM
I am disappointed by the ticket prices, but only on a personal level (since before ticket prices were announced I was thinking of making it my annual space and aviation splurge) — not a "general condemnation" level. It was the fundraisers' job to raise as much money as practically possible, and I just noticed that every single $10,000 ticket for the three astronauts' tables have been sold. So they seem to have done their job — although it will be interesting to see if those dozens of $5,000 tickets sell. (It would be spiffy if while the crew is together they signed a bunch of 16x20 Earthrise prints and the Heritage Flight Museum later sold them for, oh, $1500 each.) |
p51 Member Posts: 1642 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 02-28-2016 10:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by stsmithva: I just noticed that every single $10,000 ticket for the three astronauts' tables have been sold.
I'd bet anyone who shows up will find that those tables filled with high-ups from Amazon and Microsoft... |
Machodoc Member Posts: 207 From: DE Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 02-28-2016 01:49 PM
And for what it's worth, the $10k ticket was good for two seats at the tables (each crew member is at a separate table). |
tanker333 New Member Posts: 7 From: Doylestown, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2016
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posted 04-08-2016 03:15 PM
Finally found a fellow space enthusiast willing to pay $2500 towards a seat at the $5K table. Upon ordering we discovered that only one autographed picture is provided for each set of 2 seats. Guess we'll have to cut the autographed Earthrise print in half — one of us getting "Bill" and the other "Anders". |
Neil McRae New Member Posts: 5 From: Surrey, UK Registered: Feb 2016
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posted 04-15-2016 10:23 AM
I'm going to this event and I'm lucky (and to be frank somewhat nervous ) to be on Jim Lovell's table. It's a lot of money no doubt but I suggest worth every penny. It's for a good cause and considering the age of these great people probably last time to meet the three of them perhaps? |
Neil McRae New Member Posts: 5 From: Surrey, UK Registered: Feb 2016
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posted 04-15-2016 10:24 AM
The event is being live streamed now also. We're pleased to announce that "An Evening With Apollo 8" will be made live to a global audience on the night of the event – May 14, 6:00 PM PST! You can pre-purchase the live stream starting on Monday, 18 April for $19.95. Please note that the event must be watched live, there will be no pause/resume option for the live viewing. |
JasonB Member Posts: 1091 From: Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 05-15-2016 07:54 PM
Anyone attend this? Any stories or pics of the autographed print they gave out to some attendees? |
Neil McRae New Member Posts: 5 From: Surrey, UK Registered: Feb 2016
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posted 05-18-2016 10:19 AM
The event was absolutely fantastic and will occupy a special place in my mind for many years to come. The three astronauts were hilarious and Milt and Gerry (and Sandy) were great also — I had a lovely discussion with Gerry that was great! Frank Borman is a total hoot, Jim serious and imaginative and Bill Anders a real gentleman and a fantastic host, he couldn't do more to ensure everyone had a good time and his family and the whole staff, also made us feel incredibly welcome. Marilyn and Valerie were absolute superstars and you couldn't imagine nicer people. This was worth ever penny and more. The team at Heritage Flight Museum put on an outstanding event, with great food and drink (including Apollo 8 wine). Lots of pictures with the attendees on my camera that I'll upload and share shortly. However, one thing I encourage everyone to do is to visit the museum and see the amazing and flying exhibits. I don't think I've seen such an outstanding collection. The museum is in a fantastic location with beautiful countryside and many things to see and do, and an hour's drive from Seattle or Vancouver, we also went to the Seattle Museum of Flight and Boeing. I hope they do another one! I'd pay double! |
BA002 Member Posts: 175 From: Utrecht,NL Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 05-18-2016 01:54 PM
I am slowly returning to Earth after attending this great event. I arrived promptly at 4:30 for the reception and managed to briefly meet and get my picture taken with all three astronauts and the two flight directors. It was very nice to chat with some other aficionados, including another cS member, and help each other bagging those pictures.During dinner the three astronauts and David Hartman, the moderator, were introduced by Greg Anders, who now runs the museum, and they took their seats on the stage. David did a great job of slowly taking us, and the crew, through all the major events of the flight. It was so incredibly special to hear them talk about their flight and also to see them interact with each other, sometimes complementing each other's stories and at other times poking fun at each other. Interesting also to get a sense of their different personalities this way. Most memorable perhaps simply listening to a replay of the reading of Genesis together with the three protagonists. At a later stage Gerry Griffin and Milt Windler also joined the discussion, as representatives of the vast support crew, and finally and deservedly Valerie Anders took the stage to discuss the important role the Apollo wives played. Once the official program was over the attendees all slowly went their separate ways. I managed one last and cherished moment with Frank Borman. Greg Anders had heard that I came all the way from Holland just for the event and asked me if it had been worth it. I guess the smile on my face said it all. Yes, it took me almost as much time as half way to the moon to get there, but I feel very fortunate that I was able to attend and the memories will last a lifetime. |
Neil McRae New Member Posts: 5 From: Surrey, UK Registered: Feb 2016
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posted 07-12-2016 02:58 AM
Here is the Earthrise photograph that was given out. |
kosmo Member Posts: 388 From: Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 07-18-2016 09:47 AM
Fifteen years ago I set out to meet all the living Mercury, Gemini and Apollo astronauts, introduce myself, shake their hand, and get a photo. Frank Borman was the only astronaut that I had not met and being a fan of the Apollo 8 mission, felt this would be the perfect event/opportunity do do so. Well, not only did that come true, but the icing on the cake was a once in a lifetime photo with the entire Apollo 8 crew. I'm still smiling. Very nice event.
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JasonB Member Posts: 1091 From: Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 07-18-2016 07:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Neil McRae: Here is the Earthrise photograph that was given out.
Just out of curiosity, did they insist on personalizing the Earthrise photo or did you request it? |
tanker333 New Member Posts: 7 From: Doylestown, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2016
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posted 07-19-2016 10:35 AM
For the Tier 1 folks ($5000 tickets) they came inscribed. No other option. |
Steve Zarelli Member Posts: 731 From: Upstate New York, USA Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 07-19-2016 02:35 PM
Congratulations, Kosmo. Very nice! |